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Post by DERRENMATTS on Jul 17, 2005 4:47:42 GMT -5
According to the Herald,
According to an Eastern Conference source, the most likely scenario would be to work a three-way deal with a team that has cap space. Look for Charlotte, New Orleans, or Atlanta to possibly become involved, with Walker being shipped to a contending team in the East. The team with cap space would receive a player of equal value and Boston would end up with a draft choice, so as not to take on more salary and head into luxury-tax territory.
So we get ourselves another first round draft pick on top of the ones we are getting from LA and CLE. Boy, I do like what Ainge is doing with these drafts, but at what point will Doc have enough of this baby sitter job? ;D He's probably looking over his contract for the fine print that states that he needs to be the head of the Boston Day Care Center.
Well, if we are going to do a multi team trade with the Hornets, why not try and get Magloire?
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Post by BCHISTORIAN on Jul 17, 2005 8:50:23 GMT -5
i'm all for magloire, but i think noh wants a good part of our youngsters or draft picks for that to happen
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Post by ferbo on Jul 17, 2005 10:24:34 GMT -5
If this happens, who starts at PF?
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Post by Deleted on Jul 17, 2005 10:54:59 GMT -5
If this happens, who starts at PF? I'm going to assume its going to be Al Jefferson spot to lose. |
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Post by DERRENMATTS on Jul 17, 2005 12:35:08 GMT -5
You mean, if Magloire comes here? I'd say that Raef will be the starting PF. Jefferson will probably be given the intitial chance, but if he starts to falter, Raef will be the fall guy to take his place in the starting rotation.
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Post by meltinjohn on Jul 17, 2005 23:25:16 GMT -5
Frig Magliore for Walker. A pick is good enough. WOW. This means on potentially 2 Walker trades, Danny got 2 picks back and only gave Googs and Yogi after all. I would see Charlotte taking Walker if anyone. NO has P Brown and Chris Anderson aleady. Atl already had him and they like getting rid of veterans.
I see Walker going to the bobcats for a 1st round pick in 2007 or something. Not next year. And if it is next year, it would be protected. Still though, this is much better than letting him walk.
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Post by eja117 on Jul 18, 2005 12:42:01 GMT -5
Draft picks are like cash. Can never get enough. Especially if it's from a team called something like Charlotte or Atlanta.
Also sitting a guy with a huge contract like Blonut shows Doc doesn't have a problem with sitting vets who make too much money so I wouldn't be shocked at all if Raefs minutes go down.
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Post by mev17 on Jul 19, 2005 1:27:45 GMT -5
With Ainge's draft record, the more first round picks, the better. Especially future ones as it will keep young athletic talent coming in waves, rather than having to resign all your young talent within the same one or two years.
No matter how good someone is at drafting, not every pick will be a homerun. So the more pick Ainge has, the better the chances of landing a future all-star. Plus it gives him more trade pieces for potential trades. Recouping an equivalent or better pick than the one we gave up for Walker, and not adding any salary to our cap would be a good return for Walker, IMO.
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Post by DERRENMATTS on Jul 19, 2005 2:48:21 GMT -5
Well, I'm a draft dork, so I thoroughly enjoy the entire process, especially with Ainge picking amazing talents left and right.
But having all these young talent on the team will be horrendous to try and develop. Because Ainge picks keepers, its hard to weed out the good from the bad. If we were drafting 3 players each year, and only one is good enough to keep, it wouldn't be bad having numerous draft picks each year. But when Ainge drafts Jefferson, Delonte, Allen, and Reed, and then the following draft he grabs Green, Gomes, and Greene, how in the world are all these guys going to get the playing time they need to develop their games? All these guys are good enough to keep on the roster for years to come. Add in Perkins and Banks from Ainge's first draft, and that's 9 players who all need playing time.
In another thread, CF and I mentioned that Ainge will probably deal some of our younger players to grab a player who fits a team need. This is one of the biggest advantages of having numerous draft picks and choosing players in the draft well.
All in all, its always an advantage to have a heavily stocked minor league system to go out and trade for specific needs--like how the Yankees used to do when they had massive talents in their minors. But they've totally exhausted their talent pool now after trading them all away. Ainge needs to be wise and cunning about which young ones he deals.
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Post by freshnthehouse on Jul 19, 2005 3:57:14 GMT -5
if we could get a draft pick out of atlanta, that would be great. that franchise is in disarray, so a 1st rounder of theirs could be worth its weight in gold.
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Post by freshnthehouse on Jul 19, 2005 3:58:34 GMT -5
if we could get a draft pick out of atlanta, that would be great. that franchise is in disarray, so a 1st rounder of theirs could be worth its weight in gold.
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Post by celtics4ever on Jul 19, 2005 5:32:30 GMT -5
Most picks now are lottery protected. This may lower the value of any potential picks we could get.
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Post by DERRENMATTS on Jul 19, 2005 10:39:11 GMT -5
Don't you just hate that? They should make it a rule that a team cannot protect a pick for more than a year. And while they are at it, no more protecting second round picks.
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Post by esco33 on Jul 19, 2005 13:05:35 GMT -5
I think everyone is underestimating the possibility of Toine returning to the Celtics. Do I think we need him? Not really. But he can only help the maturation of the youngens. Is Big Al really ready to contribute at a high level - 35 minutes a night in just his second year? That remains to be seen. Will we be jammed at the 4/5 positions if we resign Toine? Yes. But do not rule out a trade of either Raef or Blount later on in the summer if Ainge des retain Walker.
Ainge is a savvy GM. I honestly think what he is doing is waiting, and waiting, and waiting until he can re-sign Toine at a bargain price. (Similar to a Ricky Davis type contract, but less years, maybe 2 or 3, as the market dwindles.) Two high profile power forwards are already out of the picture now, in SAR and Stro.
Even then if we do sign him to an affordable contract, it gives more options to trade him later if need be. What Ainge is doing is acquiring good players, with good contracts, giving him options for future trades, moves, etc.
I, for one would not be opposed to Toine coming back in a limited, leadership/bench player type role. Obviously he would have to agree to it, but it would have to include him letting the development of Big Al and Perk take place, meaning on the court, and less playing time for him.
I do not think that this is out of the question, especially with SAR signing on with a division rival. Big AL can actually play alongside Walker in some stretches, with Al at the 5 and Walker at the 4.
Do I expect Toine to be resigned? No. But do not count out the possibility of him returning to a Celtics uniform.
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Post by meltinjohn on Jul 19, 2005 13:21:23 GMT -5
Esco, I am counting it out. But, lets just wait and see. I just never see Walker accepting as less money as Danny is hoping him to accept. And I never see him limiting his role as a ball handler and trigger happy sf in a slow power forwards body.. The day that happen is the day I faint for the first time in my life.
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