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Post by DERRENMATTS on Oct 27, 2019 1:00:52 GMT -5
RWill has much room for improvement, but not only are we seeing a better version of himself this season, but he’s also got the potential to be a whole lot better. Let’s keep our eyes on his development, and mark the good, and bad things he does as the season goes on.
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Post by runrondo on Oct 27, 2019 9:05:08 GMT -5
He's been an absolute surprise for me. I didn't think he was ready based on how lost he sometimes seemed last yer, but I hope he continues to see 15+ minutes a game. Scal called out a couple of the things I noticed below:
1. He gave a really sweet pass to a man in the corner from the opposite post. Didn't know he had that type of vision or ability to pass. Really opening my eyes that he might be more than a lob and block kind of guy. 2. He was on the floor fighting for loose balls a couple times which was great to see for a guy his size
The bad: Positioning after a pick and roll. He was a little slanted which let his guy easily drive on him and pick up a foul. If he was a step or two to his left then the guy wouldn't have been able to do that and might've been forced into a jumper.
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Post by DERRENMATTS on Oct 29, 2019 14:14:41 GMT -5
Yeah, Brad and others have been praising RWill’s passing ability since last year. At some point we’re probably going to incorporate it in the offense.
As for as positioning, I think that should be his number priority right now. The more he improves here, the quicker he will establish himself as the starter. Moving his feet, getting the right angles, being in the right spot, correctly anticipating where the play will go, etc — this takes good coaching and lots of repitition, and of course game experience. It might be next season when we see RWill really emerge, but let’s not count him out having a considerable amount of contribution this year.
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Post by DERRENMATTS on Oct 30, 2019 18:31:14 GMT -5
Question for y’all. On the tail of hearing that Steven Adams and Clint Capela are rumored to be on the move, say (hypothetically) the word amongst league executives is they feel the Celtics will be favorites to win the east and have a good shot at the title if they can get Adams or even Capela. They feel so strongly about the nucleus of Kemba-Hayward-Tatum-Jaylen that adding an experienced Center, as opposed to a young inexperienced group of Theis-RWill-Poirier, will be what puts us on a level playing field.
Now, say (hypothetically), RWill could become what Capela is now, but we’d have to wait 3 years for him to reach that level. But in 3 years Kemba and Hayward will be heading into the tail end of their prime years, and then we’d have to be considering their next contracts as well. So the window for the Kemba-Hayward-Tatum-Jaylen group would start closing by then.
Weighing these things, would you make a trade for Capela / Adams and move Marcus Smart, RWill and other beloved young assets for a chance to compete for titles the next few years? Or do you hold pat with what we have, hope that RWill can become a Capela in 3 years, and see if we can contend when the time comes?
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Post by jmost on Oct 30, 2019 22:30:22 GMT -5
I can't believe I'm about to write this, but after tonight, when to me it looked like Smart willed this team to victory, I'm not sure I'd trade him. As much as he drives me crazy sometimes with his shot selection, he seems to be the guy who gets the other guys going. They're pros, and they shouldn't need another player to rev them up, but it sure seems to be the reality.
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Post by runrondo on Oct 31, 2019 6:55:28 GMT -5
I agree. I've accepted the fact that I can't explain it, but Smart does something out there to the team that's worth keeping.
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Post by DERRENMATTS on Oct 31, 2019 13:06:26 GMT -5
He’s a lockerroom leader too. And his 3pt% has been steadily improving.
Ok, back to the question at hand. Do we make a trade for Capela / Adams for a chance to contend now for the next few years? or keep RWill with the hopes he’ll reach Capela’s level in 3 years, knowing that Kemba and Hayward will be in their 30’s by then?
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Post by runrondo on Oct 31, 2019 14:01:07 GMT -5
I don't think we can. We need to match Salaries and who would you add? We mentioned no to Smart and Hayward is just getting started.
I'd totally do it if we could live in a fake world where RWill + young guys/picks = Capela or Adams.
But, I think the reality is we need to include someone making a bigger salary (Brown, Smart, Hayward) and I don't want to break any of that up right at this moment. I'd take my chances on a buyout or big guy for cheaper.
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Post by DERRENMATTS on Oct 31, 2019 18:03:47 GMT -5
I don't think we can. We need to match Salaries and who would you add? We mentioned no to Smart and Hayward is just getting started. I'd totally do it if we could live in a fake world where RWill + young guys/picks = Capela or Adams. But, I think the reality is we need to include someone making a bigger salary (Brown, Smart, Hayward) and I don't want to break any of that up right at this moment. I'd take my chances on a buyout or big guy for cheaper. Reason I bring this up is because if we have a window to contend right now, we should strike. But yeah, who should we trade? I agree, Smart is a highly valuable player for us. And Jaylen is emerging as another key piece for us. If Romeo proves to be an up and comer, does that make JB expendable? But you are right. We’re building something special here, and I don’t want to mess up a good thing.
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Post by Roadrunner on Oct 31, 2019 18:05:37 GMT -5
No. The Celtics are hard capped, which means salaries have to match going out, which also means giving up someone that is part of the core.
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Post by DERRENMATTS on Oct 31, 2019 19:37:36 GMT -5
No. The Celtics are hard capped, which means salaries have to match going out, which also means giving up someone that is part of the core. But ultimately, winning a championship is what we’re after — and if the nucleus of Kemba-Hayward-Tatum-Jaylen gets us awfully close to that, but just short, and if acquiring Capela or Adams puts us over the edge, what price would we be willing to pay for that? BTW, I’m not advocating trading Smart, as he might be, pound for pound, our most valuable player. I’d trade Jaylen first ahead of Marcus.
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Post by eja117 on Nov 7, 2019 15:19:58 GMT -5
Based on his athleticism I'm starting to think R Will is going to pass Theis by around late February. For now it's close because Theis has the experience factor. Not sure if R Will will pass Kanter
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Post by DERRENMATTS on Nov 7, 2019 15:50:04 GMT -5
Based on his athleticism I'm starting to think R Will is going to pass Theis by around late February. For now it's close because Theis has the experience factor. Not sure if R Will will pass Kanter RWill has the ability to pass everyone, and I want to say he has the desire to do just that (he’s put in the work this summer). I want to see him be more stout with his positioning. But Theis has been doing a good job so far. 3rd in the NBA in blocked shots.
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Post by jmost on Nov 7, 2019 16:46:41 GMT -5
I'm still waiting to see RWill shoot the ball. We know he can dunk, but what about a 15 foot jumper? Or some post moves. You gotta figure he's working on this stuff.
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Post by DERRENMATTS on Nov 7, 2019 17:35:17 GMT -5
I'm still waiting to see RWill shoot the ball. We know he can dunk, but what about a 15 foot jumper? Or some post moves. You gotta figure he's working on this stuff. RWill knows his limitations. But with more work on his jumper, he’ll start attempting them.
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