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Post by runrondo on Mar 30, 2014 19:34:07 GMT -5
I don't disagree with anything nateval said, all good and fair points. Gordon's shooting (and especially free throw shooting) is absolutely atrocious. I'm just not very high on anyone else outside the top 3 (assuming it's Wiggins, Parker, and Embiid taken). I'd rather roll the dice on Gordon than Randle (as he'd be a bit redundant), Vonleh, Ennis, or Smart. I haven't seen much of Exum and he seems to be going #4 on most boards. Still, if we got the 5th or 6th pick, I'd probably root for us to pick Gordon. In a perfect world, I'd imagine Gordon falling to us at 18 and we'd have a top 3 pick.
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Post by freshnthehouse on Mar 30, 2014 21:21:16 GMT -5
or if he doesn't get an outside shot it would help him if he grew another inch or two and could be a legit PF.
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Post by Roadrunner on Mar 30, 2014 21:23:04 GMT -5
I think Gordon could be a Faried, or Griffin, depending if he reaches his full potential.
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Post by DERRENMATTS on Mar 30, 2014 23:10:30 GMT -5
No, without an outside, he's not going to be much good, no matter if he's at the 3 or 4. Without the potential of an outside shot, Gordon is not worthy of a top 10 pick.
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Post by DERRENMATTS on Mar 31, 2014 2:50:38 GMT -5
Even though Michigan State lost today, Gary Harris did nothing but solidify a place in my top 10.
If only MSU could have found a better way to utilize Harris' strengths on offense, they would be advancing instead of UCONN.
Speaking of them, even though Shabazz Napier is a diehard Celtics fan, I'm not a big fan of Napier.
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Post by nateval on Mar 31, 2014 7:32:40 GMT -5
I agree with you DM Harris is in my top 10 closer to the bottom half of the top ten then the top half. As far as Napier I admittedly didn't watch him much this season. No doubt he has looked good in the tournament he's not afraid of the big shot. Napier will probably end up going late first round, if he drops to the second some team will get a nice player.
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Post by nateval on Mar 31, 2014 7:41:53 GMT -5
No, without an outside, he's not going to be much good, no matter if he's at the 3 or 4. Without the potential of an outside shot, Gordon is not worthy of a top 10 pick. DM said He's definitely in my top 10, maybe even top 6 DM so is Gordon a guy you think the Celtics should take a gamble on with maybe even a top 6 pick? IMO to much talent on the board that high up. Hoping Gordon finds a shot is to much of a gamble for me, this is too important of a draft for the Celtics IMO |
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Post by derrenattheoffice on Mar 31, 2014 12:17:21 GMT -5
I'm definitely intrigued by what Gordon can do on the court. What I'm trying to gauge is what is the likelyhood Gordon can be a perimeter threat. If he becomes one, he's going to be a stud. But if he can't, he's a slasher / defender type, which is still good, but not worth a top 6 pick.
I'm optimistic about him developing a solid jumper, that's why I'm currently putting him in my top 10. But I'll wait until June to see where I really value him.
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Post by nateval on Mar 31, 2014 13:30:49 GMT -5
Fair enough DM I see where your are coming from. From my perspective Gordon isn't going to become a perimeter threat from now til June so the whole shot thing is still a big concern. One thing I know will happen at the combine is Gordon will ace all of the athletic drills they have him do.
As far as Gordon comparisons I don't like the Griffin comparison. Griffin is a PF Gordon is a SF. Gordon is an excellent defender and has the potential to make more of an impact on that side of the floor then Griffin. Both are super athletic that's for sure. When Blake came out of college he he was measured at the combine at 6'8.5" 248 pounds compared to Gordon who is somewhere around 6'9" 212 pounds......big weight difference.
I think Shawn Marion is the better comparison. Marion doesn't have a good shot but can hit it when open and contributes a lot of different ways to the offense. Both are athletic and can defend multiple positions.
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Post by derrenattheoffice on Mar 31, 2014 16:00:29 GMT -5
Yeah, the Blake Griffin comparison are way off. Two different types of players.
Even the Shawn Marion comparison is not entirely accurate. Gordon shows more potential to facilitate an offense (like fastbreaks or even halfcourt sets); Marion is not like that. He's more just a finisher.
Gordon is going to work hard on his shot from now until the pre-draft workouts. If he shows a tick more consistency in just a couple of months, he's going to shoot up the draft board.
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Post by jrmzt on Apr 6, 2014 11:12:54 GMT -5
The Harrison twins on anyone's draft board yet? Especially in the later rounds.
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Post by DERRENMATTS on Apr 6, 2014 22:26:28 GMT -5
Andrew was in the preseason, but wow he fell off in a major way real quick. Did not show much as a PG or as a scorer.
He's coming on lately in the tourney, but question marks still longer in my head whether he can be a PG. And he's not quick enough to be a high scorer -- he needs to rely on good shooting and getting to the line.
Aaron is looking more promising as a shooter, but Andrew may have the better potential overall.
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Post by cfoo on Apr 8, 2014 20:51:49 GMT -5
My new and improved top 5
1. Andrew Wiggins
2. Joel Embiid
3. Marcus Smart
4. Julius Randle
5. Jabari Parker
Maybe Parker will fall into our lap.
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Post by freshnthehouse on Apr 8, 2014 21:57:59 GMT -5
If I was drafting for the C's, I'd prolly go:
Wiggins
Embiid
Parker
Exum
Smart
Randle
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Post by cfoo on Apr 8, 2014 23:09:36 GMT -5
my heart says
1. Smart
2. Wiggins
3. Parker
4. Embiid
5. Randle/Gordon
7. Harris
My head says
1. Parker
2. Embiid
3. Wiggins
4. Smart
5. Randle
6. Gordon
7. Harris
If I had the #1 pick I would be deciding between Smart, wiggins, parker and embiid. my heart says smart or wiggins. my head says parker or embiid. I might take wiggins because my heart and his talent level and upside say that. Good mix of both where i'm not sacrificing talent. I might take parker or embiid because im not stupid and they are probably the best player and safest pick. I wouldn't put it past me to take smart #1 though because I like him.
I tend to think DA would play it safe and take Parker or Embiid and the bpa. But ainge has a flare sometimes and take sthe player he likes. That might be parker. It seems like it would be. But people are always wrong about DA. It c ould be wiggins for all we know. Chad Ford is saying that but what does that mean. It c ould just be so parker slides. It could be true. They also said we had a promise to Royce white.
If I were a betting man I would say Parker is the best player and also the guy Ainge loves and we will draft. It's probably who I would end up pulling the trigger on myself wh en it came down to it just because that is probably the truth.
My prediction. Jabari parker will be a celtic.
Unless we are getting bill Russell or some sure thing at center I would guess ainge would rather trade for a center than draft one. I think he'd rathe rtake parker and get a center some other way.
I think all the checkmarks point to parker. He has that mystique. We take him I know how that would feel like. Wiggins has that enticement and excitement and mystery to him but Parker has the mystique. So does Embiid but I think the checkmarks point to parker. All these guys are good and this draft is very good where there isn't a huge difference between the top 4 or 5. But there is that one guy and to me it is Parker.
Jeff Green's days are also numbered more than likely and ainge has been trying to deal him. The more I watch of Parker the more he appears to be in another class. I think wiggins still has a ways to go.
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