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Post by DERRENMATTS on Aug 7, 2005 12:42:28 GMT -5
In today's Hoopshype Rumor section, it mentions that one of the first proposed ideas for Wells was Paul Pierce. And it goes on to say that an agreement couldn't be reached. But West says that he will continue to pursue trades and that before training camp starts, he imagines that he will be contacting Ainge again to work something out.
This is interesting, because without Wells, and now without Jason Williams, why in the world would West think Ainge would want to do a trade?
The answer may be Pau Gasol.
We all have heard in the past how Ainge covets this guy, and I think the initial talk to get Wells in the first place was actually to get Gasol too. No way would Ainge move Pierce just to get back Wells. I think Ainge was trying to manuever a deal to get Gasol in Green. And I think that's what he'd like to do still. And West seems to want to pursue something still, meaning I think he wants to get back Paul Pierce.
This is a trade that seriously deserves major consideration. First off, I think Gasol can play Center, especially in the East. He's well tall enough and long enough to play the position. He may not be heavy enough, but its not the determining factor. He's an intelligent passer and a crafty scorer. He's quick and agile and still quite young.
Secondly, Pierce is becoming expendable. We have so many good wing players who have the potential to be better fits with our system than Pierce. Tony Allen is one of my favorite Celtic players because of what he does without the ball, and especially what he can do with the ball. Plus Gerald Green has immense potential, and we already have Ricky Davis. And this is not even mentioning Ryan Gomes (whom I feel is a Pierce clone, except less of an outside threat and more of an inside presence) and Justin Reed, both of whom can play the SF slot.
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Post by celtics4ever on Aug 7, 2005 13:48:27 GMT -5
Maybe Battier is part of it . He has a good basketball IQ. I wouldn't mind seeing him come and wearing green.
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Post by freshnthehouse on Aug 7, 2005 19:12:58 GMT -5
Id pass. We have AlJeff to play PF already. I dont think Pau can play C. He's weak for a PF, let alone for a C.
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Post by Celtic17 on Aug 7, 2005 20:53:37 GMT -5
Id pass. We have AlJeff to play PF already. I dont think Pau can play C. He's weak for a PF, let alone for a C. What about LaFrentz and MBlount for Gasol and a protected 1st? Can we add the trade-option money? We might bring in the kid from the NE. Is it Tony? BigC... ;D |
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Post by DERRENMATTS on Aug 7, 2005 22:02:23 GMT -5
I feel that Gasol can play Center. With his height and extremely freakish wingspan, he doesn't need to be overpowering. He just needs to get better with his timing on blocking shots. As it is, he's already close to 2 bpg. As a Center, he'll be taking on less talented players, as opposed to the types of players he would have to face at PF (Brand, Rasheed, Walker, Amare, etc.).
In this day and age, playing out of position is becoming the norm. At 7 feet, 240 lbs, I don't feel that he'll be misused at Center. It will work to our advantage having such a quick Center who can run the break and finish plays near the rim. He and Jefferson will be the fastest frontcourt combination in the league.
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Post by BCHISTORIAN on Aug 8, 2005 7:42:38 GMT -5
now gasol for pierce would be major trade. gasol plays center for spansih nationmal team and he's been really effective in europe doing that. even in the olympics he was pretty good at that. i know nba competition is different but i agree with derren here - he good enough to do that. getting gasol and battier for pierce would be very equal trade. they want to win now, we want to win in a couple of years. and we need upgrade at the front court anyway. and don't forget that they are both high character guys...
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Post by bleedgreen on Aug 8, 2005 11:40:44 GMT -5
I'm on board for that trade too...even though I feel Paul may change his attitude an "Get on board " the VISION. But, if the trade do materialize, I hope Blount goes as well......Then we would have all the positive "VIBES" around ! Not a bad thing to "infect" the YOUNG GUNS with, eh !
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Post by meltinjohn on Aug 8, 2005 23:30:11 GMT -5
I would be all for this trade. I wanted this all along but I also questioned Gasols softness. But, if he fits this more up tempo offense Danny is trying to bring to Boston, its a great trade because besides Gasol, how much value could you really get for Pierce? Surely not AK47 even though I'd want him more. This trade amounts up. Battier and Gasol for Pierce and Banks even works if its not a 2 for 1 trade as said above. And at center, Gasol would be the quickest one in the east for sure. Being soft may not even be a factor if he can outrun Shaq or outrun Big Ben although that would be hard. And with guys playing out of position, Gasol would be nice at center and would only make the nba centers just that much richer.
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Post by meltinjohn on Aug 8, 2005 23:33:16 GMT -5
If only our team despite Gasol can get more defense like the pistons mold, that would be great. Imagine having a Sacramento Kings/Dallas Mavericks offense mixed with a pistons defense with garbage players like Perkins, Reed and Gomes and West developed. That would be super. Plus Jefferson is learning good defense although expect that to take a little bit.
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Post by DERRENMATTS on Aug 9, 2005 1:22:30 GMT -5
Well, I'm reading other trade scenarios being mentioned with Memphis, and it doesn't involve Gasol.
I'm hearing that a possibility is Mike Miller, Lorenzen Wright, and Earl Watson. I do not want this trade idea at all. If not Gasol, no trade, PERIOD.
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Post by BCHISTORIAN on Aug 9, 2005 2:20:31 GMT -5
ditto - no gasol no trade!!!
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Post by VI_CelticsFan on Aug 9, 2005 7:11:35 GMT -5
I feel that Gasol can play Center. With his height and extremely freakish wingspan, he doesn't need to be overpowering. He just needs to get better with his timing on blocking shots. As it is, he's already close to 2 bpg. As a Center, he'll be taking on less talented players, as opposed to the types of players he would have to face at PF (Brand, Rasheed, Walker, Amare, etc.). In this day and age, playing out of position is becoming the norm. At 7 feet, 240 lbs, I don't feel that he'll be misused at Center. It will work to our advantage having such a quick Center who can run the break and finish plays near the rim. He and Jefferson will be the fastest frontcourt combination in the league. I feel that Gasol can play center too. He's tall enough, and I think he has enough weight to play C. Sure he'll be banged up by shaq, but really, how many other centers are as big as shaq in the east? Not much. I am hopping on the bandwagon for this trade. |
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Post by VI_CelticsFan on Aug 9, 2005 7:13:56 GMT -5
Well, I'm reading other trade scenarios being mentioned with Memphis, and it doesn't involve Gasol. I'm hearing that a possibility is Mike Miller, Lorenzen Wright, and Earl Watson. I do not want this trade idea at all. If not Gasol, no trade, PERIOD. Oh yeah, I'm definately not giving up PP if were not getting back Gasol. |
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Post by DERRENMATTS on Aug 9, 2005 10:40:55 GMT -5
E-Mac, have you read about the Utah trade talk that's flying around? About us being interested in trading for Boozer and Harpring? That's a pretty interesting one.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 9, 2005 15:04:12 GMT -5
E-Mac, have you read about the Utah trade talk that's flying around? About us being interested in trading for Boozer and Harpring? That's a pretty interesting one. Not a big fan of Boozer especially having a simlar player in Al Jefferson except Al can play better defense. |
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