|
|
Post by eddietours on Jul 30, 2005 17:49:54 GMT -5
just the thought of eating something that was walking (not to good)for me.
|
|
|
|
Post by meltinjohn on Jul 30, 2005 19:48:07 GMT -5
I am totally into veggies' rights which leaves me with no alternative but to eat tons of meat. So far no animals have complained about my value so I assume they agree Haha wtf. |
|
|
|
Post by mev17 on Jul 31, 2005 1:31:32 GMT -5
Hey, what's happening, Mev. Been a long time since I got to chat with you. Yeah, I can see both Reed and Gomes coming into the game together and providing an excellent combination of offensive and offense off the bench. So what are your thoughts on all our young guys? Do you think they'll be the ones our hopes lie upon? Life has kept me very busy. My grandmother passed away recently, plus I may be relocating depending on the outcome of recent interviews. Anyway, I like our young guys because they seem to be pieces that can fit together well. West can be a solid floor leader (reminds me a bit of Bibby in Sacramento) with Banks being a change of pace accelerator off the bench, and Greene having the skill and size to potentially play both guard spots. Green has a very high ceiling at both the 2 and 3, Allen can grow into a defensive stopper and supplemental scorer at the 2, with Perkins anchoring the defense and hitting the glass while Jefferson is our PF who can score points down low and rebound as well. Reed has the makings of a solid defender with decent offense and Gomes can give minutes at both forward spots. There are enough interchangeable parts that we don't absolutely need all of them to develop well in order to win. Law of averages says we will have a solid player in all five positions. |
|
|
|
Post by meltinjohn on Jul 31, 2005 4:15:08 GMT -5
What if Jason Williams comes over for Banks though? There goes a total pg youth movement.
|
|
|
|
Post by DERRENMATTS on Jul 31, 2005 5:06:11 GMT -5
Good luck with your new job, Mev (if you get it). My condolenses to your family for your grandmother's passing.
As for your outlook of the young team, I'm pretty much on the same page as you. I like the potential of Orien Greene. I think he may be able to compete for the starting position. Its quite an advantage being 6'5" and able to handle the ball well.
|
|
|
|
Post by Celtic17 on Jul 31, 2005 14:05:04 GMT -5
Mev-
My thoughts and prayers are with you and your loved ones.
Also, best of luck in your job search.
|
|
|
|
Post by meltinjohn on Jul 31, 2005 18:46:31 GMT -5
If Orien turns out to be good, Livingston won't even be on our minds.
|
|
|
|
Post by eja117 on Jul 31, 2005 21:34:15 GMT -5
That's a pretty big if. And if Orien turns into the next Terrell Brandon, while Livingston turns into the next J Kidd, he will definitely be in my mind
|
|
|
|
Post by DERRENMATTS on Aug 1, 2005 1:07:06 GMT -5
Note that Orien is only an inch shorter than Livingston, but built a lot stronger. His court vision may not be as highly touted as Livingston's, but hopefully he'll be a solid floor general in his own right.
|
|
|
|
Post by mev17 on Aug 1, 2005 3:42:15 GMT -5
Thanks for the thoughts and well-wishes guys.
Greene may not have as high a ceiling as Livingston, but if the rest of our players mature as we hope, he won't need to be a super-star, just a player that can fit his role as a distributor and defender. Besides, I see no way of getting Livingston away from the Clippers.
|
|
|
|
Post by DERRENMATTS on Aug 1, 2005 13:55:00 GMT -5
Right, because if Jefferson and Gerald Green develop into the stars the have the makeup to become, we won't need a star PG.
The more I think about it, getting a stud Center who can totally dominate the paint, ala Ben Wallace, is more rewarding than getting a stud PG who'll make us a super offensive team, as opposed to just being a strong offensive team. I'd sacrifice some points to become more a tighter defensive team. Rather than scoring in the 110 ppg area like Phoenix, I'd settle with 100 ppg while being one of the top 7 defensive teams in the league.
We're having a discussion about getting a dominant big man on the Draft board because in '07, this kid named Greg Oden is coming out. He's becoming more and more a dominant Center and his potential is very high. He's likely a top pick when he comes out so getting him is going to be extremely difficult. But getting a dominant Center may prove to be our best bet for attaining a dynasty. A dominant Center to go along with Big Al Jefferson and Gerald Green will be a terrific threesome to build our cornerstone around. Tony Allen (SG) and Orien Greene/Delonte West (PG) can round out the starting five and make this an incredible starting lineup.
|
|
|
|
Post by celtics4ever on Aug 1, 2005 14:56:11 GMT -5
I hope that happens Derren.
My sincere condolences Mev. I don't know you but you have my well wishes.
|
|
|
|
Post by ferbo on Aug 1, 2005 18:44:29 GMT -5
BEst wishes.
|
|
|
|
Post by meltinjohn on Aug 1, 2005 18:47:16 GMT -5
Most guards in the league are ballhogs too so I'd much rather have a strong frontcourt with a guy who can put 20 and 9-10 up without bitching as much (see Brand).
|
|
|
|
Post by DERRENMATTS on Aug 1, 2005 21:27:20 GMT -5
I wonder how close we will be to mimicking the Sacramento Kings in terms of every player unselfishly moving the ball around to create a high powered offense? This will determine whether or not we need an stud PG or not. If our players can catch on to the concept of moving without the ball and passing to their open teammates, getting a pass first PG won't matter as much. In this situation, Delonte West (or possibly Orien Greene) will be adequate enough because he's a steady PG who can hit his open shots regularly.
|
|
