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Post by DERRENMATTS on Apr 8, 2005 16:49:12 GMT -5
I don't think Felton is in our reach, even if we move up in the draft. Too many teams could use a good PG. STOP IT!!! Stop shooting down my dream!! ;D ;D Yeah, he's likely to go in the top 15, which is somewhere we won't be taking if we don't move up. I think Ainge knows we are not ready to be contenders with the bunch we have. Perkins, Delonte, and Allen are most likely going to be solid role players (Allen could turn out to be an All-Star if he develops consistency and a jump shot). Big Al is a star in the making if he continues improving. Pierce and Walker, at this time, are no guarantees to be a part of our long term plans. I think Ainge feels like we need a star PG or C. |
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Post by Celtic17 on Apr 8, 2005 19:11:26 GMT -5
I just don't understand why some think Perkins won't be able to start next season. I think he could be solid. If he puts in the work like he did last offseason - he's in in my book. Just looking at his per 48 numbers makes me drool. Fouls and keeping them down will come in due time and with good coaching. Remember Justin... Don't ever forget Justin...  |
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Post by Roadrunner on Apr 8, 2005 21:00:47 GMT -5
Why Perks doesn't play more is behind me. The guy is a beast, an enforcer. I could see Perks as our starting center, but our PF would have to give us 15-20 pts a game. I would love to see a two man rotation of May, and AJ at the 4.
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Post by Roadrunner on Apr 8, 2005 21:02:17 GMT -5
I think we have a legit shot at Felton, because most NBA teams want a tall point guard, 6'2-6'3, and Felton is like 6'0. Paul is an exception.
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Post by meltinjohn on Apr 8, 2005 23:10:35 GMT -5
I am thinking Danny has this draft covered... >if we draft Felton, then Payton is gone >if we draft may, Walker is senting packing or >if we draft Villanueva, Pierce is on the block Felton addresses our biggest area of need, other than the center position, and we are not landing Bogut. Payton is definitely gone so Felton would be the right choice. But it would take possibly trading Tony Allen to move up that high and I don't think any of you wanna see him go right? Although if you think of it in the way west might be a 2 and not a 1, it won't be a bad gamble to do at all. |
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Post by DERRENMATTS on Apr 9, 2005 3:50:04 GMT -5
No, I think Perkins has a legit shot at being our starter in the future, in the event that we don't draft a potential higher potential Center than him (like I mentioned--Bogut or Taft).
Just as an example of what I'm talking about, watch the Orlando Magic. As I watched them on ESPN tonight, its obvious that they've got some talented players on the team. Steve Francis is an amazing athlete, and Dwight Howard and Jameer Nelson are future key players. When Grant Hill is healthy, he's one of the better Forwards in the league. And they've got a bunch of quality role players. But its just so obvious that they won't amount to much with the current bunch they have now. They need more firepower, more higher level players. Not necessarily stars. If they had role players who could be starters on most other teams, that'll be an improvement.
We're in a similar predicament. We have really good looking players--but will it be enough? I feel that we are missing one or two higher level players.
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Post by Roadrunner on Apr 9, 2005 22:24:00 GMT -5
True, the Magic resemble us in some ways, like being on the rise w/ a young squad, though are bench is very deep, and should be better w/ this draft. I am thinking we could land Felton w/ the 1rst round pick, and gamble on Hodge or J Williams w/ the second round pick. Like Derren said, we need a player to start the engine. Felton will do that.
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Post by DERRENMATTS on Apr 9, 2005 23:47:07 GMT -5
RR, you know it! Felton is the man at PG. Gosh, it would be amazing to get him. We could push Lefty to backup PG and SG, so he'll get his playing time. And when Lefty is playing SG, Banks can come in for Felton at PG, so even Banks will get playing time in the event that Ainge holds onto him.
Since neither Bogut or Taft are likely to be drafted by us, its important for us to land a player who will turn out to be more than just a solid role player. We don't need a future star like Al Jefferson, but a guy like a Joe Johnson or Q-Rich (guys who aren't great players, but are still able to make a big difference on the court) is what we need.
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Post by BCHISTORIAN on Apr 10, 2005 1:53:13 GMT -5
they say that the closest thing to joe johnson is danny granger. my personal favourite this year
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Post by meltinjohn on Apr 10, 2005 2:30:50 GMT -5
RR, you know it! Felton is the man at PG. Gosh, it would be amazing to get him. We could push Lefty to backup PG and SG, so he'll get his playing time. And when Lefty is playing SG, Banks can come in for Felton at PG, so even Banks will get playing time in the event that Ainge holds onto him. Since neither Bogut or Taft are likely to be drafted by us, its important for us to land a player who will turn out to be more than just a solid role player. We don't need a future star like Al Jefferson, but a guy like a Joe Johnson or Q-Rich (guys who aren't great players, but are still able to make a big difference on the court) is what we need. However, like I said before, it may take Tony Allen, a 2nd this yr and a first next yr (lottery protected) pick to make the deal work. |
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Post by meltinjohn on Apr 10, 2005 2:37:06 GMT -5
True, the Magic resemble us in some ways, like being on the rise w/ a young squad, though are bench is very deep, and should be better w/ this draft. I am thinking we could land Felton w/ the 1rst round pick, and gamble on Hodge or J Williams w/ the second round pick. Like Derren said, we need a player to start the engine. Felton will do that. The reasons orlando resemble our team. 1st, The Dwight Howard--Jameer Nelson team to our Big Al--West/Banks team. 2nd, The 2 teams stars don't have a guaranteed future on both teams (Francis and Pierce) 3rd, Grant Hill and Antoine Walker provide leadership for both teams. 4th, Doug Christie and Payton, 2 old men in which their best years are behind them but are still playing anyways. 5th, Kelvin Cato to Kendrick Perkins 6th, Hedo to (oh I was gonna say Jiri but hes not here) so I will just say a taller West. 7th, Blount is like Kasun. They both seem like they are on the same laziness level. 8th, Tony Battie to nobody. Our team once had him so I can't think of anyone to compare him to. |
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Post by DERRENMATTS on Apr 10, 2005 3:03:26 GMT -5
they say that the closest thing to joe johnson is danny granger. my personal favourite this year Yeah, Granger is sort of in that Joe Johnson/Tracy McGrady mold, except Danny Granger is lacking in the ball handling abilities. He needs to really improve this area of his game. He's also not as explosive as the other two--good, but just not at their level. I think Granger is the better scorer in the paint with his back to the basket (of the three guys, he plays the most like a SF). Granger is a heck of a player in his own right. He has a lot to work on, but the gifts are evident to see. He's got a chance to be a really good player in the NBA if he works hard enough. |
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Post by DERRENMATTS on Apr 10, 2005 3:09:07 GMT -5
Meltin, you went a little more indepth than me, but basically we're on the same page.
Orlando is a team with a couple of high quality players (Steve Francis, Grant Hill), a couple of potentially high quality players (Dwight Howard, Jameer Nelson), and after those guys, all role players. You can only go so far with that lot.
We are in the same boat. High quality players (Pierce, Walker), a few potentially high quality players (Al Jefferson, Tony Allen, Ricky Davis) and a bunch of role players (Raef, Payton, Perkins, Banks, Delonte, Blount).
We need one or two more high quality players and we need our role players to become super role players.
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Post by BCHISTORIAN on Apr 10, 2005 4:25:20 GMT -5
Yeah, Granger is sort of in that Joe Johnson/Tracy McGrady mold, except Danny Granger is lacking in the ball handling abilities. He needs to really improve this area of his game. He's also not as explosive as the other two--good, but just not at their level. I think Granger is the better scorer in the paint with his back to the basket (of the three guys, he plays the most like a SF). Granger is a heck of a player in his own right. He has a lot to work on, but the gifts are evident to see. He's got a chance to be a really good player in the NBA if he works hard enough. well he has some intangibles that we need - he rebounds well and he defends well. and he's solid tall sf. he's exactly what we need. i'm afraid he will be gone when we pick |
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Post by Roadrunner on Apr 10, 2005 20:15:21 GMT -5
Tony Allen stays. West is bait. I want Felton running the show!
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