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Post by Deleted on Jul 14, 2006 10:58:14 GMT -5
"Cleveland Plain Dealer reports:
If the Cavs and Gooden don’t come to an agreement, he could sign a one-year deal and become a free agent after next season or request a sign-and-trade. Rumblings of a sign-and-trade have begun - Phoenix, Chicago, Boston and Philadelphia are interested in Gooden, according to several league sources."
Who would be in favor in signing and trade for Gooden? If we give up Wally or Theo I hope we only sign gooden to a 3 year deal so when his contract expires it'll be the same year all of our young kids rookie contracts end.
What I would do:
Trade Wally for Gooden (3 yrs 30 mil)
Lineup: C- Jefferson/Perkins PF - Gooden SF - Gomes/Green SG - Pierce PG - Telfair/Rondo
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Post by DERRENMATTS on Jul 14, 2006 11:20:02 GMT -5
I was just about to post this thread myself. I remember hearing that Doc was a fan of Drew Gooden. He coached him in Orlando and seemed to like the kid's game. I would imagine that if there is an interest in getting him, Rivers was one of the bigger supporters of making this happen.
Gooden is a pretty solid scorer and rebounder, but unless we plan on making Big Al our future Center, I don't know how these 2 will be able to play alongside each other.
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Post by FLCeltsFan on Jul 14, 2006 12:32:32 GMT -5
I would much rather bring Gooden here than AI... I am just hoping that our interest is really in Gooden and not in making Cleveland the 3rd team in the AI trade.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 14, 2006 15:40:36 GMT -5
I was just about to post this thread myself. I remember hearing that Doc was a fan of Drew Gooden. He coached him in Orlando and seemed to like the kid's game. I would imagine that if there is an interest in getting him, Rivers was one of the bigger supporters of making this happen. Gooden is a pretty solid scorer and rebounder, but unless we plan on making Big Al our future Center, I don't know how these 2 will be able to play alongside each other. Al will probably play back-up role at Center and Foward.
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Post by DERRENMATTS on Jul 14, 2006 16:23:58 GMT -5
FL, I'm also hoping we're looking more into acquiring Gooden than Iverson. We do need help at the 4 and 5, and Gooden could help us there because he's a solid rebounder.
Wonder what Lebron thinks of losing a key member of his team? I mean, Gooden is a pretty good player and I don't see anyone on Cleveland's roster who will replace him. What could happen is Gooden is one of the players involved in the multi-team trade that could go down. Maybe that's why he waited a while to sign an extension. He had to be assured that the team was doing things to get better for the future.
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Post by freshnthehouse on Jul 15, 2006 3:41:07 GMT -5
IMO, Gooden def. isnt worth 10 mil per. I especially wouldnt want to commit to him long term. I dont want to commit long term to any PF until were reasonavly sure Al isnt the future at the 4.
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Post by esco33 on Jul 15, 2006 9:10:42 GMT -5
This is a good thread. For the past few years, Gooden had been a player I thought Ainge might acquire for an instant impact/results type of player. Gooden can step right in and give you 12 and 9. He plays hard, tough, and can defend a little in the post. He is also athletic and can get up and down. He would fit into our uptempo system. I too though would hope that he isn't part of any bigger AI deal. Notice two out of the 4 teams interested in a sign-and-trade for Gooden are us and Philly. I have always been a proponent for the "trade for a specific need rather than a name". Look at the Blazers in the past Rasheed, JO, Sabonis, Pippen, Wells, Stoudamire, Brian Grant, Dale Davis......Remember when the Lakers had GP, Kobe, Shaq and Malone. 4 future hall of famers couldn't win them anything. I like AI. He is gutsy. But I really do not see him and Pierce getting us a championship unless another move for a big man happens. I am starting to get disappointed in Al. He should be tearing up summer league, and these ankle injuries are happening to frequent, but I am willing to give him time "in my book" - one more year. Gooden is not an elite 4, but a solid piece that could help us get deep into the playoffs with what we already have, but I would NOT give up too much for him. The trade would probably be: Wally, Scal or Wally, Dwayne Jones I wouldn't give up Telfair, Rondo, Perk, Big Al, or Gomes for him. Although could any of you guys see a Wally, Big Al for Gooden and maybe another TUP player on the Cavs?
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Post by eddietours on Jul 15, 2006 11:15:20 GMT -5
what if we get gooden ,AI,pp hey thats not that bad for us to win now.
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Post by FLCeltsFan on Jul 15, 2006 12:20:40 GMT -5
Unless the owners want to pay luxury tax, we can't afford all 3... I think we will get one or the other.
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Post by eja117 on Jul 15, 2006 12:36:33 GMT -5
I don't think of Gooden as a championship starting big man but definitely a contributer. I think a rotation of him and our other bigs would be really good. and allow us to trade away other players. Like we could trade maybe AL and Tony for a really good big man and then let Gomes play a little more three. It also makes Jones more expendable. It's just a really good pickup. I'm not so sure the Cs can really expect any one big man to win games for us so i think we have to go the depth route. Or once you have depth you can trade it for that one big player. I definitely think Gooden is better than anything we can reasonably expect to get in a draft. It also allows AL to go full time to backup center if need be, which could be really good. It just allows us to always have legitimate big men on the floor and nobody dominating the ball if the price is right.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 15, 2006 12:50:43 GMT -5
You're right. He isnt' a championship calibur PF. But, he can provide what we desperately need in the front-court which is a consistent rebounder. With Gooden, we can move Gomes to SF giving us a more profound rebounding group with Perk, Gooden, Gomes and Pierce taking care the boards.
Gooden guarantees 10 pts 8 rebs per game. Only other person that can guarantee us that type of production are Gomes or Pierce. Other than that, no one in the front court can give us that on a consistent basis.
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Post by The Eye of the Q is upon you! on Jul 15, 2006 13:37:37 GMT -5
Gooden is a very reliable PF and would be a much better fit than Iverson. A package of Scalabrine and Al Jefferson should get it done. I hate to give up Al Jefferson but he has not been reliable with those ankle injuries.
JHVOS said it best - Gooden produces very consistantly and he is a Kansas alum, a fact that is not lost upon Paul Pierce.
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Post by ferbo on Jul 15, 2006 14:10:53 GMT -5
Is the thought of Gooden based upon anything more substantial than a "druther" rumor on this forum?
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Post by The Eye of the Q is upon you! on Jul 15, 2006 14:25:33 GMT -5
Is the thought of Gooden based upon anything more substantial than a "druther" rumor on this forum? Actually, this is a hoopshype rumor that we are one of four teams interested in acquiring Drew Gooden's services. I thought of this trade for Cleveland and Boston: To Boston: Drew Gooden (Sign and Trade) Donyell Marshall (3 yrs * 5.5 million) To Cleveland: Wally Z (3yrs * 12 million) Scrubby (4yrs * 3 million) Al Jefferson (2yrs * 1.7 million) That would be initial offer to Cleveland Of course Utah is looking to trade Boozer so Wally Z goes out there to Utah and Boozer goes back to Cleveland. Then again Utah extended Harpring I believe so that might night work. Then again that wild internet rumour of a mega trade between 8 teams could have substance along those lines.
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Post by FLCeltsFan on Jul 15, 2006 17:23:14 GMT -5
Is the thought of Gooden based upon anything more substantial than a "druther" rumor on this forum? It was reported in the Cleveland paper that talks were breaking down between Gooden and the Cavs and they stated that Boston, Philly and the Bulls had expressed interest in a sign and trade for Gooden.
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