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Post by DERRENMATTS on Jun 18, 2021 19:58:59 GMT -5
My guess is that without knowing if additional trades will happen that drastically change the top of the rotation, here's what I think it'll be:
Smart Fournier Brown Tatum Horford
If whoever the head coach is puts a lid on Smart's tendency to want to take over the scoring, and just take care of the ball, this lineup can compete in the playoffs.
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Post by jrmzt on Jun 20, 2021 3:39:31 GMT -5
That lineup makes me cringe for two reasons:
- Our bench offense is pretty bare - We have no playmaker/distributor
At the very least, we should have Fournier off the bench.
And perhaps Nesmith starting instead of Smart. Fingers crossed, he can be our version of Seth Curry. Looking at Philly, Smart would be the equivalent of George Hill/Thybulle off the bench.
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Post by jmost on Jun 20, 2021 8:38:00 GMT -5
Too early for me to guess because I'm hoping Smart (as well as several others) is moved and we bring in a real floor general.
I'm not sure where Al fits in. He always hated playing center, which I think was one of the reasons he left us, in addition to being offered one more big contract. But I'm not sure his knees are up to playing PF, which I think involves more running around. I guess we'll see. If his knees are up to it I think he's a better fit at PF - especially if Brown shows he can be part of a center rotation with Robert.
If Brad is high enough on Brown, and I know that's a big if, maybe we move TT as well as Grant and Semi in an attempt to get better at PF and PG. We have too many half-decent but not really good players on this team, as well as some true dead weight.
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Post by afceltic on Jun 20, 2021 11:24:23 GMT -5
Too early for me to guess because I'm hoping Smart (as well as several others) is moved and we bring in a real floor general. I'm not sure where Al fits in. He always hated playing center, which I think was one of the reasons he left us, in addition to being offered one more big contract. But I'm not sure his knees are up to playing PF, which I think involves more running around. I guess we'll see. If his knees are up to it I think he's a better fit at PF - especially if Brown shows he can be part of a center rotation with Robert. If Brad is high enough on Brown, and I know that's a big if, maybe we move TT as well as Grant and Semi in an attempt to get better at PF and PG. We have too many half-decent but not really good players on this team, as well as some true dead weight. I think with how the roster is constructed after this trade, we have to trade Thompson and will have to add Smart to get anyone decent get a real PG. The thing is, is Brad willing to part with a bunch of first round picks to get another play maker? I think we resign Fournier and trade for a PG and trade the guys I mentioned to get a good PG, how good will be determined on how many first round picks Brad is willing to give up.
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Post by jrmzt on Jun 20, 2021 15:45:59 GMT -5
Well I've seen reports that Colin Sexton from the Cavs is potentially available? Would Smart, a coupla guys like Grant, Romeo and/or Nesmith and a future 1st rounder + 2nd rounder be enough to get him?
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Post by afceltic on Jun 20, 2021 16:09:19 GMT -5
Well I've seen reports that Colin Sexton from the Cavs is potentially available? Would Smart, a coupla guys like Grant, Romeo and/or Nesmith and a future 1st rounder + 2nd rounder be enough to get him? I would love that trade with him only being 22 years old and is league average at shooting three at 38%, much better than Smarts career 32%. That would also be ironic if we traded for him because he was drafted by the Cavs with one of the picks we gave them for Kyrie.
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Post by jmost on Jun 20, 2021 17:52:15 GMT -5
I like Sexton, but based on his assist numbers I don't think you'd call him a floor general, and so I'm not sure he addresses our needs.
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Post by eja117 on Jun 20, 2021 19:02:38 GMT -5
Dinwiddie just turned down his $12 million option. I guess I could see him getting maybe 15, seeing as I think that's close to what Smart gets and Fournier gets 18
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Post by eja117 on Jun 20, 2021 19:04:41 GMT -5
My guess is that without knowing if additional trades will happen that drastically change the top of the rotation, here's what I think it'll be: Smart Fournier Brown Tatum Horford If whoever the head coach is puts a lid on Smart's tendency to want to take over the scoring, and just take care of the ball, this lineup can compete in the playoffs. So if that's out starting 5 I guess our next 5 are Pritchard Romeo Nesmith Moses Tristan T Something like that. That is horrid. We would need fairly big steps forward from ...all of them.
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Post by jrmzt on Jun 21, 2021 18:54:13 GMT -5
My guess is that without knowing if additional trades will happen that drastically change the top of the rotation, here's what I think it'll be: Smart Fournier Brown Tatum Horford If whoever the head coach is puts a lid on Smart's tendency to want to take over the scoring, and just take care of the ball, this lineup can compete in the playoffs. So if that's out starting 5 I guess our next 5 are Pritchard Romeo Nesmith Moses Tristan T Something like that. That is horrid. We would need fairly big steps forward from ...all of them. Maybe just 3 of the 5. In a postseason the rotations tend to become very short anyway. At least 1 sharpshooter, a playmaker, and a defensive player. So I'm holding out hope for Nesmith, Pritchard and Moses
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Post by DERRENMATTS on Jun 21, 2021 19:26:42 GMT -5
Sounds like Brad still wants to try it with 2 bigs.
How's this 5?
Fournier Jaylen Tatum Horford Rob
This five has size, versatility and better perimeter shooting (with Horford and Fournier).
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Post by DERRENMATTS on Jun 22, 2021 18:01:55 GMT -5
Here's going out on a limb.
Romey Nesmith Jaylen Tatum Rob
Homegrown championship team.
From the McDonald's All-Star game to the playoff series against the Nets, Romeo has been called upon to play the Point. He has feel for the pick and roll and makes good decisions. With the threat of Tatum and Nesmith behind the arc, Jaylen slipping backdoor, and Rob waiting for the lob, defenses have to play Romey even, which allows him to get to the rim. I do believe health is the only thing in his way. If he's heathy, he's going to earn the starting PG spot.
Nesmith is the 3-D guy we need. He started looking the part late last season.
Rob, like Romey, needs to stay healthy. We can already see what destruction he's capable of.
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Post by jmost on Jun 22, 2021 18:26:55 GMT -5
I still think we need a true PG. Just not sure Romeo has the handle to get by good defensive players. I'd love to be wrong though because the switchability on D would be amazing.
Given the right offensive system a squad with Robert and Al up front could be an elite passing team - and to some extent lessen the need for playmaking from a PG. But I still want a true floor general.
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Post by DERRENMATTS on Jun 22, 2021 19:20:29 GMT -5
I still think we need a true PG. Just not sure Romeo has the handle to get by good defensive players. I'd love to be wrong though because the switchability on D would be amazing. Given the right offensive system a squad with Robert and Al up front could be an elite passing team - and to some extent lessen the need for playmaking from a PG. But I still want a true floor general. That's what I was alluding to -- Romeo has been called upon to play the Point at every level (albeit, not the full time gig), which tells us that his handles, even at this stage of his development, is at least adequate. And he can always tighten it up more. I am not concerned about his dribbling. But of course, if we can get a Chris Paul or a Mike Conley, I'm not passing them up just because I believe in Romey.
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Post by jhvos7979 on Jun 23, 2021 8:35:12 GMT -5
Not sure if there is any true PG available for a reasonable asking price. Only real trade asset outside of the Jay's would be Smart and the rest of Hayward's TPE ($11 mil) that can be used to grab a decent asset. If I had a choice, I would combine Smart + Thompson+youth asset for Malcolm Brogdon. Not sure if Indiana would make him available since he's on a great contract.
Starting Lineup: Brogdon Neismith Brown Tatum Horford
Bench Pritchard/Vet PG(TPE?) Langford Fournier Williams/Vet Forward/Parker Williams
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