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Post by DERRENMATTS on Jul 23, 2016 15:40:59 GMT -5
Hmmm.... I wonder why we gave Demetrius Jackson, a second round pick, a guaranteed contract?
Last year, we gave Jordan Mickey, a second round pick, a longer contract than what second rounders normally get -- and that's because they really liked Mickey.
I guess they really like Demetrius too. I like him, but interesting they would give him a "guaranteed" contract.
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Post by oldtimeball on Jul 23, 2016 16:22:09 GMT -5
Zeller is resigned at a big contract.. While a young cheap productive rebounder signs with a division rival.. And instead of getting valuable free agents, we sign a mediocre at best bench player that's one dimensional..
Yup .. That's the fourth of July.. Sorry I don't understand.
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Post by DERRENMATTS on Jul 23, 2016 16:29:49 GMT -5
Zeller is resigned at a big contract.. While a young cheap productive rebounder signs with a division rival.. And instead of getting valuable free agents, we sign a mediocre at best bench player that's one dimensional.. Yup .. That's the fourth of July.. Sorry I don't understand. These move are not what Ainge has been targeting towards these many months. And all indications are he is still working to make those fireworks happen. But as we all know, it takes 2 to tango. Plus, maybe those fireworks are too costly -- meaning we wouldn't be happy if they did happen. I think the asking price for Griffin is high, and I'm confident the asking price for Westbrook is super high. They would constitute as fireworks, but we'd have to gut our team to get it done (moreso for Westbrook, maybe not so much for Griffin). |
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Post by jmost on Jul 23, 2016 16:39:47 GMT -5
I always thought Gerald Green was one of the dumbest players ever to play for the Celtics. I hope he's learned something. One year deal for small change, so it won't affect the future much.
Zeller is actually pretty productive in the short minutes he gets. And we are short on bigs. But why give him twice the qualifying offer when he didn't have any other teams after him? Must be to facilitate trades for bigger fish later.
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Post by oldtimeball on Jul 23, 2016 17:06:10 GMT -5
I always thought Gerald Green was one of the dumbest players ever to play for the Celtics. I hope he's learned something. One year deal for small change, so it won't affect the future much. Zeller is actually pretty productive in the short minutes he gets. And we are short on bigs. But why give him twice the qualifying offer when he didn't have any other teams after him? Must be to facilitate trades for bigger fish later. We are definitely short of defensive Bigs.. All we have are the kristich,olynyk michael smith types lol. What is Zellers plus minus? Definitely sounds fishy. And old fish at that |
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Post by DERRENMATTS on Jul 23, 2016 18:07:50 GMT -5
I always thought Gerald Green was one of the dumbest players ever to play for the Celtics. I hope he's learned something. One year deal for small change, so it won't affect the future much. Zeller is actually pretty productive in the short minutes he gets. And we are short on bigs. But why give him twice the qualifying offer when he didn't have any other teams after him? Must be to facilitate trades for bigger fish later. We may have to wait to see what becomes of this. Zeller might be involved in a sign and trade, and thats why we did what we did. |
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Post by afceltic on Jul 23, 2016 18:13:46 GMT -5
I always thought Gerald Green was one of the dumbest players ever to play for the Celtics. I hope he's learned something. One year deal for small change, so it won't affect the future much. Zeller is actually pretty productive in the short minutes he gets. And we are short on bigs. But why give him twice the qualifying offer when he didn't have any other teams after him? Must be to facilitate trades for bigger fish later. We may have to wait to see what becomes of this. Zeller might be involved in a sign and trade, and thats why we did what we did. That is the only way that contract makes any sense at all. |
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Post by oldtimeball on Jul 23, 2016 18:19:02 GMT -5
For jordan I hope.
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Post by DERRENMATTS on Jul 23, 2016 22:41:00 GMT -5
I'm getting excited about Gerald. This is not the same Gerald Green who we had 11 years ago. I see a huge difference in the way he played last year for the Heat from the Gerald Green we all knew before.
Maybe it was because he played for a well organized Heat team, but his actions were crisp. He was decisive with the ball. His decisions were quickly made. He didn't hesitate to shoot. He didn't hesitate to put the ball on the ground and attack when the defender when up in the air. He didn't hesitate to stop his dribble and pull up for a jump shot if the driving lane closed. He didn't hesitate to attack the basket if the lane was open.
This is not the Gerald I used to watch -- the one who looked unsure of what he was doing, and what he was supposed to be doing.
With the Heat last year, it was as if he embraced his role, understood the game plan, knew what he needed to do, and went out and did it.
Brad Stevens is structured and goal oriented. I'm sure under Brad, Gerald will know what he's called to do.
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Post by oldtimeball on Jul 24, 2016 0:49:18 GMT -5
I'm getting excited about Gerald. This is not the same Gerald Green who we had 11 years ago. I see a huge difference in the way he played last year for the Heat from the Gerald Green we all knew before. Maybe it was because he played for a well organized Heat team, but his actions were crisp. He was decisive with the ball. His decisions were quickly made. He didn't hesitate to shoot. He didn't hesitate to put the ball on the ground and attack when the defender when up in the air. He didn't hesitate to stop his dribble and pull up for a jump shot if the driving lane closed. He didn't hesitate to attack the basket if the lane was open. This is not the Gerald I used to watch -- the one who looked unsure of what he was doing, and what he was supposed to be doing. With the Heat last year, it was as if he embraced his role, understood the game plan, knew what he needed to do, and went out and did it. Brad Stevens is structured and goal oriented. I'm sure under Brad, Gerald will know what he's called to do. I hope so. He was cheap. Read some reviews from Miami that he was a good team are but unproductive.. |
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Post by freshnthehouse on Jul 24, 2016 1:49:46 GMT -5
Hmmm.... I wonder why we gave Demetrius Jackson, a second round pick, a guaranteed contract? Last year, we gave Jordan Mickey, a second round pick, a longer contract than what second rounders normally get -- and that's because they really liked Mickey. I guess they really like Demetrius too. I like him, but interesting they would give him a "guaranteed" contract. That's exactly why. I'm sure if we gave him a guaranteed deal, it's probably a 3 or 4 year deal. It's definitely a smart move if you are high on that 2nd rounder. becaues if you stick with a 2 year unguaranteed deal, you lose the player's bird rights. |
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Post by freshnthehouse on Jul 24, 2016 1:55:45 GMT -5
Zeller is resigned at a big contract.. While a young cheap productive rebounder signs with a division rival.. And instead of getting valuable free agents, we sign a mediocre at best bench player that's one dimensional.. Zeller is basically signed to a one year deal at 8 million per. Is there really anyone else on the market right now that would've been a game changer at 8 million per season? That's chump change in today's NBA. I'd much rather have zeller on a 1+1 deal than over pay some slightly better FA on a multi-year deal. Next year we can lose Johnson, Jerebko and Zeller's contracts and have room for another max level FA. |
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Post by DERRENMATTS on Jul 24, 2016 2:04:05 GMT -5
Zeller averaged a career low 11 minutes a game, appeared in a career low 60 games, and started 3 times (and you guessed it, a career low).
It seemed like Brad avoided using him, instead going with Olynyk and Jerebko.
I don't know -- I wouldn't be surprised if Zeller is going to be shipped out as part of a sign and trade (we only have an agreement with him right now, he hasn't actually signed yet).
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Post by oldtimeball on Jul 24, 2016 6:07:41 GMT -5
Zeller averaged a career low 11 minutes a game, appeared in a career low 60 games, and started 3 times (and you guessed it, a career low). It seemed like Brad avoided using him, instead going with Olynyk and Jerebko. I don't know -- I wouldn't be surprised if Zeller is going to be shipped out as part of a sign and trade (we only have an agreement with him right now, he hasn't actually signed yet). So some team is interested in Zeller so much at eight million? Omy ! Don't do it Danny! If you trade tyler Zeller for Kevin love straight up. Ok.. But if you give up anything else I'm gonna throw up.. Ok im getting sick even for just Zeller lol |
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Post by mev17 on Jul 24, 2016 16:59:50 GMT -5
IIRC, Johnson ($12m) + Jerebko ($5m) + Zeller ($8m) would be one year deals roughly equaling Westbrook's salary plus the raise if he restructured ... just saying. Not sure why I'm making this point on a Gerald Green thread, other than that's the way the conversation has drifted  |
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