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Post by eja117 on Nov 22, 2014 13:13:27 GMT -5
after Wiggins and J Parker
I think it's about intangibles. He's like our Larry Bird, Kobe, or Allen Iverson minus the anti practice stuff.
Just a hyper competitive guy that leads and that a team needs. These really close losses? He will do everything he can to stop that. I just don't think that Bradley or Jeff G or (to a lesser extent) that Sully or KO are really competitive guys. I think if Jonas Valanciunus goes for 18 and 10 and 2 blocks against KO, it won't really bother KO deeply, whereas I think losing deeply upsets Smart and I think this team needs that.
I definitely think he's better than Vonleh or J Randle or whoever. Maaayybbe Embiid would be better if you had a crystal ball, but when you consider that Smart is major insurance against Rondo leaving I think that matters a lot.
He's our new KG in a guard's body. It's also worth noting his physical abilities are off the charts. Worst case scenario he is a hyper competitive more athletic version of Bradley, which is to say elite defender and occasional offensive guy. His floor is pretty decent.
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Post by Roadrunner on Nov 22, 2014 23:42:38 GMT -5
Bigs take longer to develop. 2 of the 3 mentioned are hurt.
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Post by eja117 on Nov 23, 2014 12:28:57 GMT -5
Right. Taking longer to develop is bad. And there are plenty of bigs that showed something early on. Al Jefferson, KO, Sully come to mind
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Post by Roadrunner on Nov 24, 2014 12:36:55 GMT -5
Right. Taking longer to develop is bad. And there are plenty of bigs that showed something early on. Al Jefferson, KO, Sully come to mind KO was a redshirt junior (basically a senior), and Sully dominated both his seasons in college. Polished players. |
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Post by eja117 on Nov 24, 2014 16:13:20 GMT -5
Right. That's good.
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Post by doctorrain on Nov 28, 2014 20:12:28 GMT -5
Right. Taking longer to develop is bad. And there are plenty of bigs that showed something early on. Al Jefferson, KO, Sully come to mind Exactly but this draft seems to have bigs who can come in and contribute like Jefferson did or Greg Monroe for a better example. Karl Towns seems to be the perfect one and Cauley Stein might slide past top 5 so this team could get him assuming like usual, this team misses out on a top 5.
I think these guys are out there, its just a matter of finding them but our center position needs work and fast. Kelly is being exposed at the 5 and hes not good. Hes laid 2 goose eggs and 2 4 pt performances to the best of my knowledge there. He isn't being used right and seems very hard for both Sully and Kelly to dominate in the same game. Gotta get that frontcourt where the 2 bigs can play good games at the same time and to get it, you need 2 who play the opposite game. Perkins and Jefferson complimented eachother. But KO and Sully do not. In fact Perkins at center got bigger numbers than KO does.
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Post by doctorrain on Nov 28, 2014 20:14:56 GMT -5
Now onto Marcus Smart, his energy is good no question. If Rondo walks, hes the guy. Theres no disputing that. Even if Rondo is traded, I say get a good sparkplug pg in return, someone who can start or come off the bench so if Smart is ready to start, this guy can slide to backup and wont be an issue. Jennings? Monroe and Jennings for Bass and Rondo?? I'd take it. Better than losing Rondo for nothing even if the team has to eat Jennings. Plus Gerald comes off the books soon and it would be better to eat Jennings deal than to pay Rondo 20m a yr, most definitely at this point.
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Post by freshnthehouse on Nov 28, 2014 20:40:33 GMT -5
Now onto Marcus Smart, his energy is good no question. If Rondo walks, hes the guy. Theres no disputing that. Even if Rondo is traded, I say get a good sparkplug pg in return, someone who can start or come off the bench so if Smart is ready to start, this guy can slide to backup and wont be an issue. Jennings? Monroe and Jennings for Bass and Rondo?? I'd take it. Better than losing Rondo for nothing even if the team has to eat Jennings. Plus Gerald comes off the books soon and it would be better to eat Jennings deal than to pay Rondo 20m a yr, most definitely at this point. In regard to a sparkplug PG, I'd love to see the C's get Shane Larkin in any kind of Rondo to New York scenario. Larkin would be a great backup to Smart. Dude is tiny, but he is super fast and athletic. With proper coaching he could be a menace on D, anfmd I also think he could run the pick and roll well enough not to be a complete zero on offense. |
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Post by doctorrain on Nov 29, 2014 0:33:48 GMT -5
Now onto Marcus Smart, his energy is good no question. If Rondo walks, hes the guy. Theres no disputing that. Even if Rondo is traded, I say get a good sparkplug pg in return, someone who can start or come off the bench so if Smart is ready to start, this guy can slide to backup and wont be an issue. Jennings? Monroe and Jennings for Bass and Rondo?? I'd take it. Better than losing Rondo for nothing even if the team has to eat Jennings. Plus Gerald comes off the books soon and it would be better to eat Jennings deal than to pay Rondo 20m a yr, most definitely at this point. In regard to a sparkplug PG, I'd love to see the C's get Shane Larkin in any kind of Rondo to New York scenario. Larkin would be a great backup to Smart. Dude is tiny, but he is super fast and athletic. With proper coaching he could be a menace on D, anfmd I also think he could run the pick and roll well enough not to be a complete zero on offense. I like the Detroit trade better though. The Rondo to NY deal you wanted there is a last resort kinda trade. |
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Post by Roadrunner on Dec 8, 2014 22:48:37 GMT -5
Smart is shooting 29% from the FG%. This is worse than Michael Carter Williams bad.
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Post by freshnthehouse on Dec 9, 2014 0:02:34 GMT -5
I'm not too worried. All his numbers are thrown off by the fact that he has such a small sample size to go on. Before today he had only played 114 minutes this season. You can't judge a guy's percentages off such a small sample. That would be like judging how good of a hitter a baseball player is by how they do in one week.
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Post by Roadrunner on Dec 9, 2014 13:29:52 GMT -5
I'm not too worried. All his numbers are thrown off by the fact that he has such a small sample size to go on. Before today he had only played 114 minutes this season. You can't judge a guy's percentages off such a small sample. That would be like judging how good of a hitter a baseball player is by how they do in one week. Smart has good mechanics, which makes his low shooting percentage puzzling. |
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Post by freshnthehouse on Dec 9, 2014 18:46:17 GMT -5
After last night's game his FG% jumped to .345. Before yesterday's game he had only attempted 41 shots all year. You can take a 41 shot sample size from any player that will be 29% or below. It's crazy small sample size to draw any kind of conclusions on.
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Post by freshnthehouse on Dec 9, 2014 18:48:18 GMT -5
That said, I can see Smart having some pretty low FG% seasons, at least early in his career. I'm guessing in the 40 to 42% range.
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Post by Celtic17 on Dec 11, 2014 11:25:47 GMT -5
That said, I can see Smart having some pretty low FG% seasons, at least early in his career. I'm guessing in the 40 to 42% range. With the amount this team runs and the energy Smart puts into his defense, this could be expected. And he's a rookie. Most player at this stage of their career have lower shooting percentages. |
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