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Post by jrmzt on Aug 21, 2013 0:23:18 GMT -5
Its Coach K. Hes too good of a coach. Almost like Syracuse players. They look good with Boeheim's system but individually....theres a only a handful that are ever going to make it big. Carmelo and Irving being those few. In college I really believe good coaches can create good teams. Unless you're UK then you simply thrive on raw talent alone.
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Post by freshnthehouse on Aug 21, 2013 3:22:10 GMT -5
The more I see and read about Exum the more I like him. It hasn't reached the same levels of obsession that I had with Sullinger, but we have a long way to go until the draft. Kid is gonna be a keeper.
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Post by DERRENMATTS on Aug 21, 2013 3:53:25 GMT -5
Exum is a prospect who is unusual. He's like a multi purpose knife, a jack of all trades and master of none.
I can see him being a fantasy basketball owner's dream -- a guy who gives you a bit of everything. Scores in the teens, pulls down 5 boards, dishes out 5 assists, close to a block a game, gets you a steal per game, shoots a good percentage, gives you nearly a three pointer per game, gets to the line a fair amount, etc.
His ceiling isn't as a #1, but maybe an excellent #3. Or at very best, a #2 like Scottie Pippen. I kind of anticipate Exum to be in the Pippen/Grant Hill mold.
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Post by freshnthehouse on Aug 21, 2013 18:28:13 GMT -5
I'v read Penny Hardaway comparisions on a couple of sites.
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Post by DERRENMATTS on Aug 21, 2013 19:45:24 GMT -5
Yeah, I can see Penny as well.
Not that I feel Exum is likely to be on Pippen's, or Hill's, or even Penny's level. Just that in body style and overall game, he's in that mold.
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Post by jrmzt on Nov 28, 2013 2:41:15 GMT -5
Interesting lil bit of fact today:
Parker has scored 20 points or more in his first seven collegiate games. The last freshman to do that? Kevin Durant.
I've always compared Parker to Durant and Grant Hill. I don't actually think he'll be as good as Durant but I think he could score at the levels Grant Hill could score in his prime and hes a good rebounder too. Hill of course had great court vision for a forward.
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Post by DERRENMATTS on Nov 28, 2013 4:12:23 GMT -5
Actually, maybe Glenn "Big Dog" Robinson.
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Post by nateval on Nov 28, 2013 5:58:48 GMT -5
Another good game by Parker. It will be hard for a team to pass on him with the first pick, he looks like a star
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Post by DERRENMATTS on Nov 28, 2013 14:34:13 GMT -5
I'd say as of right now, based off of performance up to this point, the ranking would be Parker, Randle, Smart, Wiggins.
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Post by DERRENMATTS on Nov 28, 2013 17:43:34 GMT -5
Joel Embiid might be the guy who breaks into the vaunted top 3 in this yesr's draft. Already the consensus top 3 is Wiggins-Parker-Randle, with Marcus Smart pounding on the door to get in. But Embiid might be the one who actually makes it in.
Yes, he's still got a long ways to go, and at times he makes mistakes lots of young players make. But when you consider how far along he is for a 7' Center who has only been playing organized basketball a couple of years, its just crazy to think how much better he's going to be a couple of years from now.
He's already showing excellent footwork and grace around the basket, he's already flashing moves reminiscent of Olajuwon, and he's displaying quickness, athleticism, and coordination that not many college prospects have shown in recent years. On defense, he's got the timing and the long reach to be a shot deflector. And he's got double digit rebounding potential due to instincts.
He's a post player with excellent feel for the basket (and again, he's still new to the game, but he's showing the feel of a seasoned NBA vet), he can take his man off the dribble, and his shooting form suggests he'll be a midrange threat with possible three point range.
What got me more excited was when he had the ball fed to him on the right block (which is not the usual side a right handed player will post up at be ause then you'll have to dribble with your left) and when the double team instantly came to him, he easily and decisively dribbled out of pressure using his left hand. But he did it while scanning the floor, and he made the correct pass to a cutting Wiggins. It's not easy making a quick pass like that when dribbling with your left and when a double team is right on you, and then to accurately hit a moving target.
This suggests to me that Coach Self has the confidence and the trust in Embiid to put him on the right block and allow the offense to run through him. Mind you, he's only been playing organized basketball a couple of years!!
In a couple more years, he could be the best player in this draft class if he continues to develop his game at the rate he's developed in such a short period of time.
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Post by jrmzt on Nov 29, 2013 0:31:41 GMT -5
To be honest...Based simply on performances in college so far without taking into account their future potential my top 3 list looks like this:
1. Parker
2. Smart
3. Randle
In fact you could make a case for so many guys who are performing better than Wiggins such as Rodney Hood from Duke or Jordan Adams from UCLA to name two others. This draft is so deep that Wiggins if he doesnt live up to expectations, could very well not make the top 5.
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Post by runrondo on Nov 29, 2013 1:41:36 GMT -5
Yea I agree. I've been disappointed with Wiggin's performances so far this seasons as well. He's not doing bad by any means, but he's really just been good, not great. I'd say Parker/Smart/Randle have been great or at least have given great performances in multiple games so far in the early season.
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Post by DERRENMATTS on Nov 29, 2013 3:11:03 GMT -5
The one thing I am looking for in Wiggins this year is the killer instinct. So far, I haven't seen it. So far, he's reminded me of Jeff Green, in a not so good way.
No, maybe its just that in Kansas, Wiggins isn't asked to shoulder the scoring load, as Parker (and Hood) are asked to at Duke. And he doesn't get fed the ball in the post like Randle. And he doesn't dominate the ball like Smart. But I still expect Wiggins to show more assertiveness than what I have seen from him so far.
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Post by jrmzt on Nov 29, 2013 4:30:22 GMT -5
I feel that someone like Randle who is surrounded by talent, has the assertiveness and alpha dog mentality needed to demand the ball in order to carry the team on his shoulders. Thats the sorta player you have to be to win close games.
However its not something that cannot be learnt. Given time, a player can definitely learn to assert himself. Question is whether he does so or if hes too bothered about pleasing his teammates and too worried to seem selfish.
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Post by DERRENMATTS on Nov 29, 2013 4:57:27 GMT -5
But then there have been games (in high school) when Wiggins rose to the challenge and came up big. If I remember correctly, he was criticized for being overhyped, and then he scores 52 pts the next game to shut up his critics.
In the Kansas vs Duke game, Jabari easily outshines Wiggins in the first half. Immediately in the second half, Wiggins comes out looking for his shots, maybe even forcing shots at times, but I saw a different player. Wiggins came up with some big points late in the game, and his team beats Parker's.
Wiggins has to come out every game with a chip on his shoulder.
But yes, that's the way Randle plays, and I like it. Parker too.
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