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Post by DERRENMATTS on Jul 17, 2013 22:08:46 GMT -5
The consensus #3 player, behind Wiggins and Parker. Julius Randle is really an amazing talent. He's a stallion -- lots of power, throw in speed, agility, finess, ball handling, perimeter shooting -- and the part I like best, aggressiveness. He plays with a chip on his shoulder, like he dislikes you, and would love nothing more than to bull rush you and dunk on you.
It's crazy to think that with such incredible talents like Wiggins and Parker, the best player to come out of this draft could be Randle -- he's a dark horse candidate for sure.
For this to happen, he's got to be a very efficient player near the rim. We know he can slash, we know he likes to take his man off the dribble and show off his ball handling, we know he can hit set jumpers and pull ups too. But if he can be a low post threat and finish plays consistently at the rim, he just could take over as the best player of the 2014 draft.
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Post by jrmzt on Jul 18, 2013 0:28:20 GMT -5
The only issue is that he had I believe an injury a year or two ago that sidelined him for quite abit. For a big man, any injury concerns me. So I'm hoping it doesnt affect him any further because if he is going to be completely injury free then you are right in saying that he could very well be the best out of the 3. His combination of size and speed as well as the fact that he has great handles for a big guy.
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Post by kval1441 on Jul 18, 2013 6:07:52 GMT -5
This guy Randle is a Monster! I would love to have him!
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Post by Roadrunner on Jul 26, 2013 17:20:33 GMT -5
6'9 PF/C. Under-sized?
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Post by jrmzt on Jul 26, 2013 19:34:29 GMT -5
Not really. Close to 6'10. Al Horford is about the same height as Randle.
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Post by DERRENMATTS on Jul 26, 2013 22:05:13 GMT -5
My concern with Randle is his efficiency in the post. Because he's not long and lanky (his wingspan isn't great), he can't power his way under the basket and try to softly lay one in. He'll get blocked almost all the time. In high school, he was able to out-quick his man or overpower him. At the college level and especially in the NBA, that won't work. He's got to be crafty.
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Post by Roadrunner on Aug 11, 2013 8:25:46 GMT -5
My concern with Randle is his efficiency in the post. Because he's not long and lanky (his wingspan isn't great), he can't power his way under the basket and try to softly lay one in. He'll get blocked almost all the time. In high school, he was able to out-quick his man or overpower him. At the college level and especially in the NBA, that won't work. He's got to be crafty. Right, because he is undersized (or has an average wing span). |
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Post by kval1441 on Aug 11, 2013 10:22:38 GMT -5
"2013 Scout.com HS Basketball Rankings (full list):
Pos: PF Pos Rank: #1 Pos Rating:
Scout.com Player Evaluation:
STRENGTHS
Attack Mode
Low Block Scorer
Strength
AREAS FOR IMPROVEMENT
3-Point Range
Mid-Range Game
One of the top post prospects in the 2013 class, Randle is an aggressive low post scorer. The 6-foot-8 power forward has a variety of scoring moves, can finish through contact and likes to face up defenders and attack the basket. He owns his area rebounding wise, is a defensive presence and is one of the premiere athletes that the 2013 class has to offer."
Very excited to see this Monsters Growth this year. Everything I've seen or read on randle leads me to believe if healthy he should be top 2 or 3 pick. Which in this draft class COULD be a franchise piece.
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Post by jrmzt on Aug 11, 2013 10:57:28 GMT -5
Health is gonna be key. Truth be told the chances of us landing Wiggins isnt high. But having a plan B and getting Randle could be just as good. The guy oozes potential. I compare him favorably to a player like Al Horford who is a piece you can build around. Problem is our current backlog of players at the 4 spot....
If we do draft Randle...who goes at the 4 spot to make way? Green? Sullinger? Olynyk?
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Post by kval1441 on Aug 11, 2013 11:13:35 GMT -5
Health is gonna be key. Truth be told the chances of us landing Wiggins isnt high. But having a plan B and getting Randle could be just as good. The guy oozes potential. I compare him favorably to a player like Al Horford who is a piece you can build around. Problem is our current backlog of players at the 4 spot.... If we do draft Randle...who goes at the 4 spot to make way? Green? Sullinger? Olynyk? I agree JR. As for the roster. We have all season to figure that out. I'm not sold on Sullinger being a big minutes starting PF yet. Or If Randle develops his shooting a little more this year. He could be a beast at SF. Jeff green can possibly get us another 1st rounder this year. |
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Post by DERRENMATTS on Feb 4, 2014 0:54:01 GMT -5
Nate, just so you know that I value the opinions from other people, I've been open minded regarding your comments about Randle's lack of wing span. He's not a T-Rex guy (short arms), its just not as long as you'd like on a big man (the longer they are, the more advantage he'll have). I can see how it may hinder his overall ceiling.
One area I feel is a misconception regarding Randle is the idea that Randle bullies his way for points in the paint. I mean every player does it to a degree. Randle may dig in and push his way closer to the basket, but most of his finishes are finess kisses off the glass or lay ins. He pump fakes a lot, and is good at banking off of different angles.
The idea that he bullies and tries to overpower people is not true.
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Post by nateval on Apr 7, 2014 9:50:08 GMT -5
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Post by cfoo on Apr 8, 2014 10:03:42 GMT -5
I think I went to a no on randle after reading that nateval. He isn't what we need unless he is going to improve defensively which doesn't seem likely. Amare had some good years but even got really lazy with his defense. It's hard to tell on some of these guys. We could draft a guy who is supposed to be a great defender and he ends up being so so and randle takes the criticism to heart. That's the whole you can't measure what is in a players heart thing. These players have long careers. Randle to me does not strike me at first look as a big heart guy though. I don't know. I don't know him personally though.
The draft is tricky that way though. You never know what you are going to get with some of these guys.
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Post by derrenattheoffice on Apr 8, 2014 11:51:47 GMT -5
I don't know much about Kevin O'Connor. I've read his stuff on Celticsblog, and I think he's got a good mind. But this one he wrote, I don't know .... some good points, but some I think are too judgmental. I think with Randle, he's over scrutinizing this freshman (key word, freshman). I wonder how many of the other top prospects Kevin carefully watched on defense the way he has for Randle? I don't know, maybe Kevin did it for all the top prospects. Maybe not (again, I don't know the guy, and for the most part I do like reading his stuff). A freshmen who hasn't displayed good defense isn't the end of the world. Defense can be taught. Explosiveness, a quick first step, athleticism, these things can't. Randle is a workable player. He's got tools to work with. Now, short arms, well you can't help that. But at the same time, there have been many players with long wing spans who haven't done nothing with that length. Randle has been effective as a rebounder and scorer despite not having a great wingspan because he's a warrior. With this said, I am not convinced Julius Randle is a great prospect, nor do I guarantee he will be a good pro. |
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Post by freshnthehouse on Apr 8, 2014 19:10:05 GMT -5
Yeah, I'm still think Randle is a great NBA prospect. He wouldn't be a top 3 for me, but he is definitely top 5.
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