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Post by DERRENMATTS on Aug 24, 2005 1:35:00 GMT -5
Without counting Woods and Borchardt, we have 16 players under contract, and 14 is all we are allowed to have on the roster.
Raef, Perkins Jefferson, Scalabrine Perkins, Blount Pierce, Ricky Gomes, Reed Tony, Delonte Dickau, Banks Green, Greene Bynum
Ainge just signed Bynum and Orien Greene to contracts, so I doubt there going to be moved (though they are the likely NBDL candidates).
Everyone expects Mark Blount to be moved, and Banks to be included in the deal to sweeten the offer (though, now he may be used to get some roster space).
There's talk that the Lakers are interested in Banks.
Even if we move Blount and Banks, that still leaves us 1 over the limit, and honestly, I don't know who else I'd want to get rid of.
If Blount and Banks are moved, which of the remaining 15 players would get rid of next? (Maybe I should have made this a poll).
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Post by DERRENMATTS on Aug 24, 2005 2:09:31 GMT -5
I see a lot of talent in the lineup we have. Even if we lose Banks, Orien Greene sounds like an intriguing enough guy to possibly make us forget about Banks. I've seen Bynum play and barring any setbacks because of his shortness, I think he'll make a solid backup player.
This team, once fully developed, will have very few holes. We have defense, a lot of offense, size, quickness, athleticism, character, and youth.
I may be a homer, but I think every one of the 15 players on the roster can turn out to be really solid players.
And when's the last time anyone's ever complained about the draft? Well, seeing how crowded and young we are, its mind boggling to think that we have multiple first round picks coming to us again this year. With Ainge's propensity of drafting really good players, who in the world is he going to move/trade in order to accomodate them? We're already loaded at the wings and at PG. We could use another solid big man prospect. This could be the year Ainge drafts europeans and stashes them away overseas. Oh yeah, and we still have that Albert Miralles guy. Hey, make sure you all check your pockets because we may find more unnoticed Celtics players hiding.
This team is going to be really deep. On every team in the past, I could name a handful of players I'd cut the very instant I got the chance to. But if you gave me choices now, I'd be hard pressed to name more than a couple (actually, Blount is probably the only one, but even he may not be that bad if he's the 3rd big man off the bench. I don't necessarily want to trade Banks, but because we have too many PG's, I feel that he's the one to go).
Most teams will go 8 - 9 deep, and the rest of the roster are just mediocre players. On our team, the 8th guy could be Ryan Gomes, and he could be a starting caliber player on most teams. Or our 10th man could be Justin Reed, who could be a 7th man on a lot of other teams.
Boy, teams aren't going to be able to rest when they play against us. If they think Jefferson is a handful, wait till our bench comes in and devours their bench players.
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Post by BCHISTORIAN on Aug 24, 2005 4:51:19 GMT -5
two things
first - team can have 15 players on the rosters, 12 of which are on the active roster. the three remaining are on the inactive roster and of those three 2 can be sent to nbdl.
second - i still think we need more depth on the frontcourt. and our pg situation is far from being solved
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Post by DERRENMATTS on Aug 24, 2005 10:36:44 GMT -5
Really? I thought there was no longer 'inactive' players, whether it be IL or IR?
Agree that we need more depth up front. Eventually, if we are going to be a dynasty, we'll need better big men on the roster. Maybe one really good one who is head and shoulders better than Raef and Perkins (Gred Oden, maybe? ;D).
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Post by sprash98 on Aug 24, 2005 10:43:17 GMT -5
To all those who want to get rid of Banks, brace yourselves for a HUGE disappointment. Delonte is NOT as good as you guys think. He is not good with the dribble and is too weak. He can be a good kickout guy ala Delk but will NEVER be the PG that you want.
Hold onto Banks. He is too talented to be a throw-in.
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Post by DERRENMATTS on Aug 24, 2005 11:00:59 GMT -5
Banks is athletically gifted, but there have been tons of athletic players who just don't make much of themselves because they don't have the basketball smarts to do so. And then there are players who aren't as physically gifted, but who try harder and have basketball sense. These types of players seem to have more value.
I don't mind keeping Banks as a backup--I don't see him being a starter. But with the amount of PG's we have, most of whom may turn out to be fantastic backup PG's, Banks may be the one to go. Not as a throw-in. Seems like the Lakers are intrested in him.
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Post by eja117 on Aug 24, 2005 11:15:21 GMT -5
I'd cut Bynum. I think Banks can be a better pg than him
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Post by Celtic17 on Aug 24, 2005 16:19:25 GMT -5
If I understand correctly under the new CBA all teams will have 14 active players for each game (no more IR). Teams can send first and second year players to the NBDL (not sure if the is a limit to the number of players).
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Post by Jambr380 on Aug 24, 2005 21:24:12 GMT -5
I agree, Banks is very valuable to what this team can accomplish. Even if we never think he will be a starter, he can be a wonderful back up, and quite a spark...I like the comparison of Delonte to Delk. Everyone was jizzing over this guy before he had even stepped on the court. Ainge hasn't proven anything to me in his "wonderful" decision making process, as Jefferson and Green were absolute no brainers. Losing Banks could be a real disaster to this team. Orion and Bynum need to go to the nbdl and let's run with 3 pgs.
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Post by meltinjohn on Aug 24, 2005 23:35:43 GMT -5
This is why if Banks is moved Jambr, the c's need to get absolute equal value so they won't regret dealing Banks later. That means a player of Kirk Snyders caliber.
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Post by BCHISTORIAN on Aug 25, 2005 1:04:09 GMT -5
personally i don't think they know right now who's gonna lose out the pg battle. that's the good thing - let the better players win. and i think that banks is too good to be a throw-in
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Post by DERRENMATTS on Aug 25, 2005 1:19:17 GMT -5
I agree, Banks is very valuable to what this team can accomplish. Even if we never think he will be a starter, he can be a wonderful back up, and quite a spark...I like the comparison of Delonte to Delk. Everyone was jizzing over this guy before he had even stepped on the court. Ainge hasn't proven anything to me in his "wonderful" decision making process, as Jefferson and Green were absolute no brainers. Losing Banks could be a real disaster to this team. Orion and Bynum need to go to the nbdl and let's run with 3 pgs. I guess you have a point, being that luck was on Ainge's side during all 3 drafts. Even with guys like Ryan Gomes falling to 50th--its just not likely to happen, but it did. But nabbing Delonte and Tony Allen when many thought they were second round picks, deserves credit. But I hope you can at least see how much talent Ainge has added to this team. Getting rid of older, less talented players, in exchange for younger guys like Ricky Davis deserves an applaud.
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Post by meltinjohn on Aug 25, 2005 1:23:04 GMT -5
It deserves many applauds. Fans were all downing Ainge when he first came in and dealt Walker but look at how much came of that. Jiri (part of the AW trade) got us a possible unprotected pick. Allen came out of it, 2 2nds off the 2nd Walker trade, Borchardt. Not too shabby really.
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Post by DERRENMATTS on Aug 25, 2005 1:32:49 GMT -5
Meltin, weren't you one of those who were upset with Ainge's moves early on?
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Post by meltinjohn on Aug 25, 2005 1:33:48 GMT -5
Yes I was. Especially Eric Williams leaving.
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