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Post by DERRENMATTS on Aug 12, 2005 2:29:33 GMT -5
The Bulls are in a bind. They are not willing to give Eddie Curry a long term contract because they are set to give one to Tyson Chandler. They've talked to him about giving him a short term contract, but he isn't listening.
Curry's potential is too great to pass up. This kid has unbelievable talent just waiting to be properly developed. His offensive game started coming around last year (before going down with an irregular heartbeat). His rebounding, admittedly, isn't where it should be. But with his size, strength, and quickness/agility, he could be a bruising rebounder.
If this kid ever gets his desire and motivation on the right page, he could turn out to be the most dominant big man this side of Shaq and Amare. He has the physical traits that both of these guys have, but he lacks the mental aspect to put in the work/effort into becoming a dominant player. The talent is there, but his motivation isn't.
That's where I'm hoping Doc and our coaching staff can earn their keeps. If he can motivate Curry and get him to see his vast potential, Curry just might be able to make good on his vast talents. Rebounding is all about heart and desire, and with the right attitude, he can be a big time rebounder. But someone has got to get him thinking along these terms--maybe a change of scenary and the right coaching can get him there.
His heart is a concern. But I say bring him in, give him a thorough physical and test his heart for ourselves and if the doctors give the OK, sign Curry to a contract. All he needs is for someone to put him on the right track.
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Post by mev17 on Aug 12, 2005 2:53:34 GMT -5
My concern with Curry is not only the heart condition, but also I read today that one reason Atlanta did not make him an offer yet is that he showed up overweight and left Atlanta earlier than scheduled to go to a baby shower. I am not sold that his attitude will improve, so I would rather put our energy into developing Perkins, who has a great work ethic and matched up very well with Curry when we played the Bulls this past season.
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Post by DERRENMATTS on Aug 12, 2005 4:15:34 GMT -5
Yes, the possibility of him being another Mark Blount (a player who just doesn't give full effort on the court) is there. But from the time he was drafted, I have been enamored with his potential. His physical gifts are off the charts. He's got the right abilities to become a dominant player.
I just have a hard time letting a player as talented as him go to another team when we could have him. It does concern me that his head isn't fully on basketball. But I hope this is a youth thing, and a phase he will soon grow out of. Hopefully, its just that he doesn't want to play for Atlanta and that's why he did the things he did, like you mentioned.
At the very least, I hope Ainge will give him a call.
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Post by BCHISTORIAN on Aug 12, 2005 4:48:50 GMT -5
yeah we would rather have him than not
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Post by Jambr380 on Aug 12, 2005 19:27:38 GMT -5
As much as I like Perk, he is no Eddy Curry in terms of talent. A lot of players turn their attitudes around as they grow older...look what we have in Ricky D right now. Curry would be the smart signing, and would make me forget about Veal.
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Post by freshnthehouse on Aug 12, 2005 20:28:49 GMT -5
IMO, Curry would be a horrific signing, and any team that gives him big bucks should get their heads examined. This was supposedly Curry's breakout year, and he couldnt average more than 7 rebounds? I'll pass. And all of the talk of his bad attitude and lack of commitment had to come from somewhere. Let the Bulls or the Hawks max this guy out, and watch his boat anchor of a contract ruin the team. This guy will be Benoit Benjamin 2.0.
Besides, we only have around 3 mill to offer him. Chi or Atl would def blow that amount off of the offer table. This is a guy the Hawks were thinking of maxing out. I doubt theyd go from that to not giving him 3 mill a year.
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Post by meltinjohn on Aug 12, 2005 20:49:00 GMT -5
IMO, Curry would be a horrific signing, and any team that gives him big bucks should get their heads examined. This was supposedly Curry's breakout year, and he couldnt average more than 7 rebounds? I'll pass. And all of the talk of his bad attitude and lack of commitment had to come from somewhere. Let the Bulls or the Hawks max this guy out, and watch his boat anchor of a contract ruin the team. THis guy will be Benoit Benjamin 2.0. I can't agree any more with you. I would be against bringing Eddy Curry in. I'd rather have Scalabrine for less than have one more overpaid big who in the long run wont be much better than Blonut. And you can tell Curry indeed is becoming a fatso. I so hate that. You should be in shape at that level. All that fried chicken that these guys eat. I mean tons. I heard Kwame Brown eats at Popeyes a whole lot speaking of which. Eddy I always say holes in. If he was a good offensive player, I always saw holes in his defense and rebounding. A big man like him should be a 10 or more rebound per game player. The bulls aren't stupid, they will get Chandler and leave Curry right there at the stop. |
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Post by Roadrunner on Aug 12, 2005 22:07:56 GMT -5
The issue w/ Curry is simliar w/ what I have w/ the NBA. Curry, all-world talent, no world work ethic. Then, he wines to the media why no one signs him to a long-term contract? Let the records speak for themselves.  |
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Post by meltinjohn on Aug 12, 2005 23:59:39 GMT -5
Forget about him totally. Let him be Atlantas problem.
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Post by DERRENMATTS on Aug 13, 2005 2:47:08 GMT -5
Curry is an incredible physical specimen. He does have basketball skills, many of which still remain undeveloped. That's the positive. The negative is that he hasn't shown the maturity to bring forth the talents that he possesses.
But maybe its Chicago's fault. I mean, Tyson Chandler was supposed to be this really outstanding player too, but he's far from living up to his potential (though he's taken more strides than Curry has). Maybe its possible that they have poor big men coaches.
For the right price, I'd be willing to take a gamble on him and stack him up with our coaches and players. Doc is going to rag his behind if he doesn't play hard and Perk and Jefferson will eat him up in practice if he doesn't give his best effort. This could turn his career around and possibly make him the dominant player he has the gifts to be.
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Post by eja117 on Aug 13, 2005 10:10:49 GMT -5
Maybe I should have said this a while ago but as a sophomore in college (that's what he was last year) I think Perk showed he can be a damn good big man in this league. I am all about Perk cause of his size and attitude and clear desire. If I were DA I'd be saving up for a good contract for him. I like Curry as a player a lot, but I have serious issues giving a big contract to a guy with a heart problem and possible head problems. I agree we should thoroughly check him out for ourselves, but something is just not right here. He seems like a player who will either do real well or real bad and soon and nobody knows what, but I think Perk will do real well. Maybe we could give Curry some sort of incentive based contract. It's just that I wonder what the "right price" would be. I'd pay more for him than Scala. He's a better gamble than a lot of those stupid big men contracts like Blount. But he's not worth much more than that
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Post by Roadrunner on Aug 13, 2005 12:32:11 GMT -5
Curry, Chandler are two great examples of players that should have went to college. Would they have been drafted any higher? Probably not. Though, they would be much more developed than they are now.
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Post by eja117 on Aug 13, 2005 14:41:59 GMT -5
sports.espn.go.com/nba/columns/story?columnist=smith_sam&id=2131223when i read this i got the feeling curry isn't going to risk millions by having doctors declare he has a significant heart issue. Since he has had a respectable doctor clear him if i were him i wouldn't submit to any heart physicals either. perhaps he is out of shape cause he doesn't want to give his heart a workout and have a heart attack
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Post by DERRENMATTS on Aug 13, 2005 16:59:42 GMT -5
Its wrong to give a big contract to Curry because of his heart condition, plus we just don't know if his maturity will ever surface.
But what I want to emphasize is if we can get him for a reasonable price and contract, we should seriously look into it. Sign and trade involving Blount and our trade exemption (would this work, Mev)?
Perkins is a gifted player. He's got a chance to be a really productive player on the boards and on defense. But pound for pound, Curry has got more physical talent and potential basketball skills than Perk. But it hasn't surfaced yet--especially on the boards and on defense. But he does have the ability to be a force there. But someone's got to bring his maturity and self motivation level up so that he can maximize on his potentials.
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Post by freshnthehouse on Aug 13, 2005 17:04:17 GMT -5
One thing we gotta realize is that right now we have 16 players on our roster. Im willing to bet that Woods will be released, but that still leaves us with fifteen. My guess is that bochardt will be on IR. But lets say we go after another vet, who do we put on the IR then? My guess is either Greene,Green, or Reed.
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