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Post by BCHISTORIAN on Jun 29, 2005 2:13:15 GMT -5
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Post by DERRENMATTS on Jun 29, 2005 4:30:36 GMT -5
Ainge said that he felt Orien Greene was first round material. Don't know if that's Ainge just trying to make him feel good or convince people that he's better than he really is, but that's a tough statement to make.
Well, an athletic 6'5" PG might be worth keeping if he's decent.
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Post by tjlamro on Jun 29, 2005 11:41:15 GMT -5
ya he looks allright... not sure hes better then Gilchrist but we will see.
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Post by VI_CelticsFan on Jun 29, 2005 12:20:25 GMT -5
A guy from DraftCentral or whatever its called said he has the most upside of a point guard not in the big 3 (Paul, D-Williams, Felton, Jack, Ukic). Maybe he could even be a starter for us in the future. He's a tall, pass-first, athletic PG who plays good D, what a steal at #53.
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Post by DERRENMATTS on Jun 29, 2005 13:07:38 GMT -5
Well, Ainge had some good things to say about him in his press release regarding the second round picks. Said that he's a long, athletic player who came out of high school with some fanfare, but underachieved due to injuries and other stuff. But Ainge has seen him play and brought him in for 2 workouts before the draft (where he did well going up against Ukic and Jack), so he has an decent idea of Orien's game. Says that he's a good distributor, but not a terrific shooter (he said his shot isn't bad). Said he's a unique player because he's got height, length, and athleticism for a PG.
If he's a better passer and creator than Banks, Marcus needs to watch out. Ainge likes tall PG's, and Orien is one. He could take Marcus' spot as the backup PG. But this is thinking way too early. We have to see what Orien can do in summer league and see if he'll stick with the team.
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Post by Ossric on Jun 29, 2005 15:08:53 GMT -5
according to the short video at yahoo, he looks big for a PG and definitely not skinny.
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Post by eddietours on Jun 29, 2005 17:58:33 GMT -5
he looks like arena maybe he make the team he looked real quick in the video and big.
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Post by meltinjohn on Jun 29, 2005 20:29:45 GMT -5
In the video, he looked like a really good pickup. He can move thats for sure. And maybe it is possible he can take Banks place. I can see Justin Reed being cut so Gomes has a spot and GP leaving so Orien has a spot.
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Post by Roadrunner on Jun 29, 2005 20:52:45 GMT -5
Greene maybe NDBL material for year #1.
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Post by DERRENMATTS on Jun 29, 2005 23:11:18 GMT -5
Yeah, he does look like Gilbert Arenas. He isn't real explosive, but he's got good quickness. With his body strength, he looks like he can get to where he needs to (ala Arenas, Billups). His height and strength is going to be an advantage. Seems real confident with his game. Looks like the aggressive type when there's an opening.
His shooting form looks a lot like Tony Allen's. Did these 2 guys buy the same basketball instructional video?
He looks capable of being a solid backup. He seems more of a PG than Banks, at least from that clip.
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Post by DERRENMATTS on Jun 30, 2005 0:47:54 GMT -5
Good read if you're looking to know more about this mysterious Orien Greene. From the Lafayetter Daily Advertiser:
Celtics select Cajuns' Greene
Bruce Brown
bbrown at theadvertiser.com
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Orien Greene was a revered figure in Florida in his
younger days, but he didn't act like it when he went
to Tampa in the spring to prepare for life in the NBA.
Greene's eagerness to improve his game helped make the
former Louisiana Ragin' Cajun standout a second-round
choice of the Boston Celtics (No. 53 overall) in
Tuesday night's NBA Draft in New York City.
"It was an interesting situation," said David B.
Thorpe, the Executive Director of the Five Star
Training Center in Tampa. "Orien is a legendary prep
figure in the state of Florida, and I didn't know if
he would come in here thinking he was bigger than us,
or come in and try to get much better.
"But he was totally willing to learn from Day One."
Greene had two workouts with the Celtics, cementing
their interest with his second performance after
Thorpe and his camp altered Greene's offensive game.
"He really shot it in the second workout," Thorpe
said. "He was able to dominate some good players. And,
from that workout, we felt he would go to Boston. In
fact, I think his agent told other teams not to pick
Orien unless they could guarantee something because we
felt certain Boston would pick him.
"When he came to us, we told Orien we have to change
your shot. I needed six months but I had six days. The
first thing we did was work on his shot from
long-range. A close second was his mid-range game.
"We worked on stepping back, and on his pull-up
jumper. We wanted him to get back to being a great
athlete, and he said the other day that he's jumping
higher than he ever has before."
Greene has also added six pounds of muscle since
leaving the Cajun program, and according to Thorpe
"looks like a football player now. In fact, his
parents haven't been here the whole time, and they
came today and were shocked by what they saw."
"Orien Greene has always been very special to our
program," UL coach Robert Lee said. "He's very gifted.
We're very, very excited for him and for our program
that he was picked in the second round, and I think
he'll eventually be a very good NBA player.
"The fact that he has trained hard doesn't surprise me
at all. Since he left school, he's changed his jump
shot. He's shooting the ball a whole different way. He
has put in the work, and he truly deserves this."
Greene's concentrated work on offense made sense after
being named the Defensive Player of the Year in the
Sun Belt Conference for the 2004-2005 season.
The 6-foot-4 standout overcame a broken leg to help
Lee's Cajuns to a second straight Sun Belt Conference
championship and NCAA Tournament berth. In that
injury-shortened senior campaign, Greene averaged 11.4
points and 4.6 rebounds per game while registering 68
steals in 25 games.
"Nobody really understands how talented Orien is," Lee
said. "Last year, because of the injury, people didn't
really see the real Orien Greene. So it's good to see
that the professional teams understand what kind of a
player he can be."
Greene played his first two years at Florida before
transferring to UL and helping the Cajuns to the
2003-2004 Sun Belt title. He repeated that feat last
season, and now is ready to further elevate his game
in the NBA.
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Post by DERRENMATTS on Jun 30, 2005 0:56:35 GMT -5
Gotta love to hear that he's the type to put his ego aside and work hard at reworking his game and body.
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Post by BCHISTORIAN on Jun 30, 2005 1:06:42 GMT -5
seems like an ainge type of guy indeed
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Post by DERRENMATTS on Jun 30, 2005 1:18:02 GMT -5
Yeah. Did you read the part where his agent told him to shut down all other workouts because they knew that Ainge was going to take him with one of the second round picks? His agent must have really thought that Orien would be a good fit for us because being drafted at 50 or 53 is risking it. Had he worked out for other teams, he may have gone higher. In the back of my mind, I think Ainge may have slipped in the word to Orien's agent that his client has a good chance at being the first PG off the bench, or possibly the starter in Boston. Ainge really seems to like the kid--and quite frankly I do too.
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Post by BCHISTORIAN on Jun 30, 2005 1:20:43 GMT -5
well he seems to be a good pick up but we have to see how he plays in the summer league. and frankly we will not have 3 young pg's on our roster come regular season. somebody's gotta go somewhere. trade or nbdl
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