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Post by Deleted on Dec 5, 2007 14:35:48 GMT -5
I think Rondo is trash and we need a new point guard. Only Sam Cassell is uglier then Rondo. Rondo gets blocked all the time, he cant hit a 3, and he sux from the free throw line.
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Post by DERRENMATTS on Dec 5, 2007 16:59:11 GMT -5
Hehehe, Rondo is not a pretty face, but he's far from being the 2nd ugliest player in the league. And he certainly is not trash. The problem with Rondo is he's being too unselfish. Ironic, but we need him to be more selfish and go after his own points. Rondo has the quickness and the ball handling to get to the rim a lot, and he needs to exploit this. By being a scoring weapon, teams will have to worry about yet another player.
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Post by CelticsLoyalist on Dec 13, 2007 19:00:42 GMT -5
I think Rondo is trash and we need a new point guard. Only Sam Cassell is uglier then Rondo. Rondo gets blocked all the time, he cant hit a 3, and he sux from the free throw line. What guy is looking at Rondo like that anyway? Obviously, you have seen him play at Kentucky. He shot the J and the college 3 and he has great leaping and dunking ability. You pick on Rondo not being able to hit the 3, FT's, and being ugly, but your posts miss the mark and your attitude is very ugly. |
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Post by runrondo on Dec 13, 2007 19:56:50 GMT -5
JJ Redick? I hope your joking...Now Rondo definetly sucks at free throws, 3's, and whether or not to shoot but he's coming along slowly..he needs to realize just because he has the big three around him doesn't mean he can't take it to the rim and score himself..On kentucky he used to drive and finish efficiently but now he drives and thinks it's his job to ALWAYS kick it out to somebody no matter what..He passes up beautiful chances but that's all part of learning and becoming more comfortable with your own game around 3 stars..On defense he seems to be gambling for the steal rather than keep the man in front of him which leads to some sloppy defense by him but we all know he can play D if he really just keeps the man in front of him...we have House to take 3's off the bench so we don't need Redick who basically only has a shot which hasn't been doing him good in the NBA and NOTHING else...Rondo has great potential and he's slowly improving each game even sometimes when it doesn't look like it..Tho adding Sam Cassell wouldn't hurt either..He already has played and developed a chemistry with KG before!
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Post by Roadrunner on Dec 13, 2007 23:07:43 GMT -5
D' would agree w/ me, how about Raymond Felton to run the show?
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Post by runrondo on Dec 13, 2007 23:25:34 GMT -5
^I wish, is there anyway to actually get him?...It's tough to find someone to just get right now because we don't have much trading chips and no one great is available..P.J. Brown could be a valuable addition to help solidify the inside game but he might cost too much..If Cassell gets bought out midseason we could possibly pick him up and he'd be a solid point guard...right now i just think we need to go on and see what this team does when it faces the tougher competition and have more games under their belt...
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Post by freshnthehouse on Dec 13, 2007 23:36:07 GMT -5
One thing that hasnt been mentioned yet is Rondo's contract. This is what makes him so valuable to the C's. Dude is going to be wrapped up in his rookie deal for the next few years, which is crucial for a team that has 3 players making close to 60 mill a year.
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Post by DERRENMATTS on Dec 13, 2007 23:43:00 GMT -5
Oh yeah, I would like Raymond Felton on the team. For anyone who has kept up with my college scouting, you would know that II was all over Felton at UNC. But I would have our coaches work relentlessly with him on his shooting. That's what I think he lacks right now--a fluid offensive game to balance his terrific passing game--and if Rondo can improve his shooting mechanics, Felton can definitely improve his (his shot is not as bad s Rondo's).
But we have Rondo and I would like to see how far we can go with him. Rondo can learn something from Felton, though. Felton has the attacking metality, and right now, Rondo can play passively. For instance, Rondo can always take his man off the dribble and get into the heart of the paint. But he often times won't exploit the mismatch, and instead force our Trilogy to make the offense go.
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Post by CelticsLoyalist on Dec 14, 2007 1:38:30 GMT -5
Any of you guys ever seen Rondo highlights? The dude was hitting J's and the college 3 pretty easily. He also was quite the finisher when he drove to the hoop. And his leaping ability! Forget about it! I know how things change drastically in the big league, but I'm not so sure we have seen all that he can do. We get these flashes on certain games and I almost think he is holding back more for the sake of the team, than him actually not being that good
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Post by DERRENMATTS on Dec 14, 2007 14:26:40 GMT -5
I can tell you that if Raymond wanted to, he could be averaging 20 ppg. He drives relentlessly, and he dumps off peffect passes with the best of them. And he's also a terrific finisher as well. Like Rondo, I think Felton is also being limited in the offense he's playing in.
Felton can knock down the deep perimeter shots pretty good, but that doesn't mean he's a good shooter. Antoine Walker could also drain 3's, but no one would say that Toine was a good shooter. Felton needs to learn to soften his shots. Watching him shoot his free throws, I think his form needs to be loosened a bit.
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Post by runrondo on Dec 14, 2007 15:23:19 GMT -5
In Kentucky Rondo was the man, the leader, and he was the playmaker...On Youtube, you can see lots of awesome finishs by Rondo but Rondo now has the mentality that he isn't supposed to be running the show and he seems like he thinks only the Big Three can waste shots or have mismatches...In the NBA, it seems like once Rondo gets into the paint he gets confused and wonders whether he should drive, shoot, or pass...Watch the Bulls game again and you'll see that Rondo can drive and score, and his shot has improved..It's gonna take time but you can see sooo much potential in him with all that speed and athleticism...Also, check out Rondo's stats when he started last year when we were plagued with injuries--- 10.6 ppg, 5.6 apg, 5.4 rpg, and 2.4 spg...pretty solid stats and his jumper has improved(though still needs major work)
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Post by DERRENMATTS on Dec 14, 2007 17:04:03 GMT -5
Rondo was stymied in Kentucky. I read during during the draft hoopla that Rajon left KU after his sophomore season because staying there was just knocking down his draft stock. When I saw Rondo in the high school McDonald's All American game, I was really impressed with his game, and looked forward to seeing him play in Kentucky. But he really didn't look that good at Kentucky--and you could see that it was because of the slow down style of play. I kept making that claim while lots of others said that Rondo just wasn't good.
So now Rondo is on our team, and though we are having some huge success, its clear that Rondo is still not being used properly. I think Rajon is capable of doing much more, as far as setting the team up for easier shots. But I'm not going to harp on this because we are winning, and that's the important thing (right now anyways).
So now, I would like to tell Rondo to be aggressive. Take your man off the dribble and blow by him. Look to score more, and don't be so quick to give up the ball when its clear that you have a good mismatch.
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Post by CelticsLoyalist on Dec 14, 2007 20:00:24 GMT -5
Thats just another of the many reasons why I like you Derren, you do you college scouting homework! Rondo is so quick, if he was on the Warriors, he could easliy be a great penetrator and get easy buckets. Of course he would hardly have to play defense and if he did it would be scrambling style.
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Post by CelticsLoyalist on Dec 14, 2007 20:01:55 GMT -5
In Kentucky Rondo was the man, the leader, and he was the playmaker...On Youtube, you can see lots of awesome finishs by Rondo but Rondo now has the mentality that he isn't supposed to be running the show and he seems like he thinks only the Big Three can waste shots or have mismatches...In the NBA, it seems like once Rondo gets into the paint he gets confused and wonders whether he should drive, shoot, or pass...Watch the Bulls game again and you'll see that Rondo can drive and score, and his shot has improved..It's gonna take time but you can see sooo much potential in him with all that speed and athleticism...Also, check out Rondo's stats when he started last year when we were plagued with injuries--- 10.6 ppg, 5.6 apg, 5.4 rpg, and 2.4 spg...pretty solid stats and his jumper has improved(though still needs major work) Rondo def looked like the man back then. He could really get in those passing lanes and get the steal for the easy layup. And I saw him hit some big J's and a game winning 3 that was all net. He is a reluctant scorer on our team. |
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Post by Roadrunner on Dec 14, 2007 22:58:25 GMT -5
Rondo didn't look as good as could in college. In fact, Patrick Sparks looked much better and he isn't playing in the NBA.
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