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Post by Deleted on Dec 9, 2006 22:10:39 GMT -5
29 pts 14 rebs 1 blk
This thread was needed!
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Post by freshnthehouse on Dec 9, 2006 22:21:30 GMT -5
Indeed. Having a guy that can rip it up in the paint makes a team so much tougher tp handle on the offensive end. Lets hope this is just the first of many games like this for Al.
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Post by mrbeefy316 on Dec 9, 2006 23:01:38 GMT -5
Al has always been capable of that type of output. The problem is that nobody gives him the ball down low. How many times have we seen Al go 4-6, 6-9, 5-8. It seems like every game he has like 12 and 7 rebounds by only playing like 15 minutes in a game. I know that sometimes he gets in foul trouble but most of the time he just doesn't get enough minutes and also only gets the ball with no time on the clock and ends up having to bail the team out. He needs to be the first or second option on offense. There is no reason for him not to get 15 shots a game, especially when he makes more than half those shots.
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Post by esco33 on Dec 10, 2006 0:31:25 GMT -5
You give the guy the rock, and he will do damage. They just need to feed him the ball down there more. We NEED this type of inside offensive presence and Al can provide that. I like Paul and all but he will not take us to the promised land alone. Think about how much more effective he would be with an actual inside presence. Mark my words, we start Big Al for the rest of the season and feed him the rock like that every night we will make the playoffs....easy. If Wally was playing tonight we would have won by 10, on his 3's alone. Our attack needs to be more balanced. Inside-outside instead of outside-outside. When we do not feed Al the rock we are a jump shooting team, and btw LET SEBASTIAN AND RONDO RUN THE TEAM. You take the ball out of their hands and put it in Pierce's always we are a worse team. Let Pierce be a scorer, and not as much a creator. Let Telfair and Rondo create for him and everyone else. It's not that hard. Doc just seems to make it that way. Talent supersedes age. Should we bench Al and sign Grant Long because he's older? You have to put the best talent onto the floor no matter what age. That's how they will learn anyway. Congrats to Big Al on a great game!
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Post by BCHISTORIAN on Dec 10, 2006 11:44:14 GMT -5
been eagerly waiting for those kind of numbers
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Post by Deleted on Dec 16, 2006 11:58:06 GMT -5
19 pts 12 rebs amongst the 4 game winning streak..
Finally, Big Al is realizing his potential~!
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Post by DERRENMATTS on Dec 16, 2006 13:14:02 GMT -5
Finally Doc is giving him playing time. Finally, Al isn't fouling everything that moves. Finally, the ball is being fed into Jefferson. All these have finally allowed Jefferson to takes steps forward.
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Post by eja117 on Dec 16, 2006 14:55:50 GMT -5
There is no denying Al is taking steps forward. I am excited about what he is doing. I am still happy with Powe. I'm curious about Perk. I wish they'd run plays for Gomes and see what he could do. I am beginning to hope our future draft picks and a player can be bundled for something really really good. Like Powe, Al, Wally, and 2 1sts for Oden and a contract. Stuff like that. But Oden or an established guy like D Wade is the only type of situation I'd do it in. Stuff where we are in a position of strength again. i still don't think Al can be a bronze medal guy, but maybe an all-star. Maybe with tons of young clones becoming really good players we can still do the Pistons thing. It would have to be GG, Rondo, and Al, but maybe Telfair, Powe, Gomes, and TA can all become better than we thought. Those could be some darn good backups. I still think PP is the way of all this. i would hope he could be instrumental in a trade for an Oden/D Wade type or even KG.
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Post by ferbo on Dec 16, 2006 15:05:32 GMT -5
Allen seems to be playing better as a starter.
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Post by DERRENMATTS on Dec 16, 2006 22:21:35 GMT -5
Going up against the league's top shot blocker, Jefferson was able to put up 22 and 10, but to Okafor's credit, he did hold Jefferson down to 10 - 21 shooting. Jefferson didn't have a big game, but this is another piece of evidence that Jefferson is beginning to solidify himself as a future beast in the east. He wasn't playing with his "A" game, but still had 22/10 against the league's premier shot blocker. Its like a pitcher getting a complete game win against one of the league's best lineups, despite not having his best stuff. Sure he may have gave up 3 or 4 runs and walked more guys than normal. But he pitched himself out of jams and got timely ground balls/double plays when he needed them.
With a few more confidence building outings, I want to see how well Jefferson can do going up against Tim Duncan, Yao Ming and Dwight Howard. One by one, see how he holds up against the premier big men in the league.
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Post by eja117 on Dec 16, 2006 22:24:24 GMT -5
That will definitely be a major test but even if he doesn't do well there's lots of guys that don't do well against them
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Post by DERRENMATTS on Dec 16, 2006 22:47:03 GMT -5
Right, I'm not expecting Jefferson to go out and put up 20/10 against Tim Duncan or Yao. But whereas in the preseason, I may have been a bit skeptical of Jefferson doing that against Duncan and Yao, now I'm optimistic that he has the ability to do it (he'll need his "A" game to do it, though).
Jefferson can still learn to become more physical. Its not really his game to do a lot of bumping, but working with Clifford Ray more will help him. Al has such a knack for putting the ball through the hoop with his soft touch that he can often do it without drawing contact. But initiating contact does 2 things: it gets his man into foul trouble, which allows Jefferson to go up against backups and it also allows him to go to the line and pick up more points. Jefferson can be a 70 - 75% shooter from the free throw line, so if he reaches the charity stripe 8 times per game, he can get an additional 6 pts tacked on to his scoring line.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 17, 2006 11:27:49 GMT -5
22 pts 10 rebs against Emeka Okafur
2 games in a row against excellent defensive big men!
Big Al now averages 12.4 pts 8.8 rebs 1.3 blks per game
Someone should send Clifford Ray some presents this christmas. He has blessed us with the emergence of Al Jefferson!
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Post by freshnthehouse on Dec 17, 2006 14:17:43 GMT -5
There is no denying Al is taking steps forward. I am excited about what he is doing. I am still happy with Powe. I'm curious about Perk. I wish they'd run plays for Gomes and see what he could do. I am beginning to hope our future draft picks and a player can be bundled for something really really good. Like Powe, Al, Wally, and 2 1sts for Oden and a contract. Stuff like that. But Oden or an established guy like D Wade is the only type of situation I'd do it in. Stuff where we are in a position of strength again. i still don't think Al can be a bronze medal guy, but maybe an all-star. Maybe with tons of young clones becoming really good players we can still do the Pistons thing. It would have to be GG, Rondo, and Al, but maybe Telfair, Powe, Gomes, and TA can all become better than we thought. Those could be some darn good backups. I still think PP is the way of all this. i would hope he could be instrumental in a trade for an Oden/D Wade type or even KG. There is no way the team that scores the number 1 pick in the draft will trade Oden. I'd trade our entire team for Oden.
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Post by eja117 on Dec 17, 2006 15:41:15 GMT -5
Fresh if you had Oden you wouldn't trade for someone proven like D Howard? Or D Howard AND a Rondo type AND a GG type AND a #1 pick? Which could easily be a Brandan Wright or something? Cause if I had all that I'm not sure I'd trade it for Oden.
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