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Post by meangreen on Nov 7, 2006 14:29:45 GMT -5
Hello every1, I just signed up 2this site and Ive been a fan of the green a long time:D Its good 2c every1 here talk 'bout their favorite team and have some knowledgeable points to bring up on the Cs. I posted this thread also in the "Fire Doc" forum as well. I2 am concerned 'bout the coaching and was NEVER a fan of hiring Doc in the 1st place. So in my 1st post Im goin 2drop a BIG1:D THIS is the team that Pitino, I KNOW, I KNOW, its blasphemous 2say his name among the green, but this is the type of team HE wanted and should be coaching, though I don't think he should b the GM, cause I think that DA has done a good job of gettin young talent. Bringin' slick rick back isn't the bomb I wanted 2drop, its WHO should we hire instead of Doc? WHO do u wanna see coach this team? I wanna be the 1st 2start the internet rumor and fervor 2get Billy Donavan here 2coach this team. He's young, he knows the area, he can relate to our young talent and get them 2play offense AND defense w/o having 2compromise 1or the other. Im interestered in hearing what the Green nation has 2say on this. Lookin 4ward 2talkin w/all of the Green nation in the future:)
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Post by FLCeltsFan on Nov 7, 2006 14:50:09 GMT -5
Hey meangreen! Good to see you here. This is really a great forum and I am sure you will like it here. As far as right now, if Doc is fired mid year this year, the likely choice would be Danny. Rick Adelman is available and might be a possibility. I would love to see them bring in Cousy or DJ or one of the past Celtic greats to coach the team. They always kept it in house when Red was running the show. All I know is that this team will never reach its potential with Doc at the helm. I was even thinking that Ratliff could be a player coach for the rest of the year after reading how he is coaching the guys on defense and telling them what they are doing wrong.
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Post by DERRENMATTS on Nov 7, 2006 16:58:00 GMT -5
What's going on, MeanGreen. Welcome to our family. Hope to see you around often.
You bring up an interesting name: Rick Pitino. I had thoughts about him as our future coach as well. We are so young that it'll be just like coaching college kids for him. I don't know your reasoning for wanting him here, but for me, I was thinking that an authoritariam-like coach would improve us. Doc is stern, but he is also too friendly with the kids--kind of like a big brother type. At times, I dont' know if our guys are willing to go the extra mile for him and do what he's asking them to do.
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Post by CelticsLoyalist on Nov 7, 2006 18:53:42 GMT -5
Pitino would never come back here. Certainly, I think the opposite of a young players coach is what we need here. A old wise take no lip coach that demands respect and gets it. A Coach who can motivate our young guys to play like vets. Right now we are playing like a bunch of Rookies.
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Post by eja117 on Nov 7, 2006 18:54:35 GMT -5
Well since meangreen has balls the size of two shyscrapper wrecking crews and is completely insane I of course gave him karma. He has definitely come to the right place.
But seriously. I veto Pittino. Any coach who writes a book with a condescending title like "Success is a choice" and then fails miserably must not be rehired. It's a Miller Lite Man Law. I think c17 will back me up on this. And Fresh will oppose me.
Billy Donovan yes. Rick Pittino no.
Also I may give more karma to meangreen for having one of the best names around here. It work on many levels. It's one of those names where you are like "Oh yeaaaahhhh. Why didn't I think of that?"
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Post by eja117 on Nov 7, 2006 19:34:29 GMT -5
Here are the coaches I'd rather have than Pittino
Red Ozzy even though it's midnight and he has no idea where he is Bill Parcells Bill Belicheck The BC football coach Terry Francona Bill Clinton George Bush The late Chief Justice Rehnquist Chief Justice Roberts George Washington my shoe Alexander the Great Genghis Kahn Julius Caesar Mr. Naismith !!!GREENIAC!!! Vitale Dr. Jack Ramsay Me Anyone on CG, particulary FRESH, since I know he can win at least a fantasy leage which more winning in basketball than Doc ever did Larry Brown Pat Summit The guy who coached the Miracle on Ice The Soviet who coached the 72 commies to a stolen victory, but I admit that one would sting. But so would Pittino Billy Donovan MJ Larry Bird DA PP or any Celtic except Kandi or Scala as a player coach Bill Russell The Terminator The Governator That crazy old former governor of Minnesotta. You know who I mean Homer Simpson or even Peter Griffin Jerry Seinfeld My dad Eric Montross Eric Montross' dad Any playboy model that ever lived or died The Pope The Dali Lama Mohammed Osama Pat Robertson
Notice I picked several people despite the noticable disavantages of being dead or never seeing the game of basketball played in their lifetime
Here is who I would rather have Pittino than
Doc ML Carr Isiah Thomas Who ever wrote that god aweful song "alarm clock catastrophe" Barbra Streisand (then again maybe they'd win just to shut her up) anyone from "the view" Dr. Phil Coach K J Lo Johnny Damon The Devil I don't care how much he wins which brings me to Phil Jackson that faker
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Post by DERRENMATTS on Nov 7, 2006 20:34:47 GMT -5
A old wise take no lip coach that demands respect and gets it. A Coach who can motivate our young guys to play like vets
Yes, this is the type of coach I'm interested in. An authoritarian type. Not one who micromanages like crazy, but one who commands his player's respect and attention.
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Post by CelticsLoyalist on Nov 7, 2006 20:51:04 GMT -5
Exactly, not a micromanager, but a respect guy who is not afraid to sit our best player should their ego prevent us winning, EVEN to spite a win.
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Post by DERRENMATTS on Nov 7, 2006 20:55:10 GMT -5
Now where can we get a coach like this?
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Post by CelticsLoyalist on Nov 7, 2006 20:56:16 GMT -5
That's the problem. It seem all of those types are already coaches.
We should get Bobby Knight!
j/k ;D
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Post by FLCeltsFan on Nov 7, 2006 20:59:09 GMT -5
Sounds like you are describing Bill Fitch
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Post by meangreen on Nov 7, 2006 21:48:42 GMT -5
Well its glad 2b welcomed here 2this forum by all of you, I can feel the love already:D I just wanna clear up my post 4every1. Im NOT sayin bring back Pitino, I AM sayin bring in Donavan 4the reasons I listed. Some of the names Ive seen have that have been tossed 'round include Rick Aldeman, eh. Dana Barros, not, Ive even seen Theo Ratliff as a player coach:)) I think Billy would be a GREAT fit here. He's got the qualities that we're lookin4 in a coach. Besides the 1s I listed he's also a stern coach that teaches discipline. He know's what the pros are 'bout, granted he never blossomed as a pro, but he's the experience 2know what it took to get there AND y he didn't blossom as a pro. PLUS he doesn't have 2b GM like Pitino was, all he has 2do is coach 'em up:)) Im alllll 4Billy Donavan coaching this team to get 'em movin on offense, pressurin the ball on D, AND have some kind of semblance of how 2get a runnin style offense implimented. Thanks every1 4the welcoming words, Im goin 2enjoy being here:))
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Post by FLCeltsFan on Nov 7, 2006 22:17:07 GMT -5
I don't know much about Billy Donovan but if he can get them running and coaches pressure defense, he sounds like a winner.
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Post by CelticsLoyalist on Nov 7, 2006 22:49:40 GMT -5
That's true you never said get Pitino here only that he wanted this kind of team to coach. I was just thinking that, IMO, our team actually couldn't use a coach like Pitino BECAUSE they are so young. Might as well be a College B-ball team if that were the case. Although I do like Donovan as well. Just not so sure about gambling on College Coaching. I may be wrong.
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Post by CelticsLoyalist on Nov 7, 2006 22:56:06 GMT -5
Sounds like you are describing Bill Fitch He would definitely be a Coach to get us into the playoffs. But would he come back? After all he is 72. We also got to remember he coached Cleveland once to an 0-15 start. I believe before he coached Boston. He also ranks 5th all time in wins as a coach and 5th all time in losses.
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