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Post by jrmzt on Jun 20, 2021 3:33:05 GMT -5
Brad played Smart consistently down the stretch of close games, so my guess is that he really likes him as a player. But it may just mean that he had no better alternative. How much do we trust the reports that players didnt like the way Brad favoured Smart? And I wonder what impact that had on locker room dysfunction.
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Post by afceltic on Jun 20, 2021 11:19:32 GMT -5
Apparently Gordon told Brad that he had to rein in a few players, stop trying to be everyone's friend and be a HC that would hold them accountable or the team wouldn't get to their potential. That IMO is obviously Smart and Tatum. That is why we need a guy who has won a ring at the NBA level who will have the respect of the players and won't let Smart (god forbid if he stays or gets resigned) and Tatum run wild.
I believe it because you could see it in the way the team played and it explains the fight after a loss when once again Smart took a majority of the shots down the stretch and bricked all of them to lose yet another game. I was impressed that Jaylen was mature enough to not publicly air the dirty laundry in his interview after that game.
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Post by jrmzt on Jun 20, 2021 15:33:34 GMT -5
Apparently Gordon told Brad that he had to rein in a few players, stop trying to be everyone's friend and be a HC that would hold them accountable or the team wouldn't get to their potential. That IMO is obviously Smart and Tatum. That is why we need a guy who has won a ring at the NBA level who will have the respect of the players and won't let Smart (god forbid if he stays or gets resigned) and Tatum run wild. I believe it because you could see it in the way the team played and it explains the fight after a loss when once again Smart took a majority of the shots down the stretch and bricked all of them to lose yet another game. I was impressed that Jaylen was mature enough to not publicly air the dirty laundry in his interview after that game. Interesting to know all that! But if Brad is always trying to be a people-pleaser, will he be able to pull the trigger on trades that would send away fan-favourites or players he is close to? Thats a concern if he overvalues his players simply out of a personal connection.
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Post by afceltic on Jun 20, 2021 15:42:36 GMT -5
Apparently Gordon told Brad that he had to rein in a few players, stop trying to be everyone's friend and be a HC that would hold them accountable or the team wouldn't get to their potential. That IMO is obviously Smart and Tatum. That is why we need a guy who has won a ring at the NBA level who will have the respect of the players and won't let Smart (god forbid if he stays or gets resigned) and Tatum run wild. I believe it because you could see it in the way the team played and it explains the fight after a loss when once again Smart took a majority of the shots down the stretch and bricked all of them to lose yet another game. I was impressed that Jaylen was mature enough to not publicly air the dirty laundry in his interview after that game. Interesting to know all that! But if Brad is always trying to be a people-pleaser, will he be able to pull the trigger on trades that would send away fan-favourites or players he is close to? Thats a concern if he overvalues his players simply out of a personal connection. That is my biggest concern about Brad. It makes no sense to keep Smart at this point. If he trades Smart, I won't be worried. If he resigns him, I will be very worried because Smart was reportedly his favorite as a HC in the same article and it caused issues in the locker room. Which makes sense as to why he was allowed to shoot as many bricks as he wanted to under Brad.
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Post by jmost on Jun 21, 2021 13:18:10 GMT -5
I just read this on celticsblog.com www.celticsblog.com/2021/6/21/22543691/brad-stevens-financial-flexibility-and-building-around-jayson-tatum-jaylen-brown-drove-trade-celticsBrad says the primary reason for the Kemba trade was financial flexibility. Otherwise, the main thing I got out of it was that Brad was clear that he was going to be building around JB and JT, and that everything he does will be to put guys around them that can help them succeed. Am I wrong to infer that this may mean the end of searching for a "third star", and that maybe we'll be spending money more on solid support players than in the recent past? It also makes me look at our current roster and ask "does this player help the Jays succeed". Certainly a true floor general that could create easy, or at least easier, shots would help. And guys who RELIABLY knock down corner 3s when one of the Jays draws a double team.
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Post by DERRENMATTS on Jun 21, 2021 13:39:26 GMT -5
Yeah, that's the impression I got -- get players who make our wings better.
I don't know if I'd say we're not searching for a third star though. A stud PG can make our wings better.
What this also suggests to me is Brad is shaping this roster according to his liking. He's probably hiring a head coach who has his same mindset.
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Post by DERRENMATTS on Jun 23, 2021 18:58:37 GMT -5
I think Brad, being a "people" and "relationship" guy, will not be like Ainge and constantly shuffle the deck. Feel he will stick with the players he has and brings in.
Maybe initially to move the guys who are not good fits who Danny brought in, and to get in the guys he wants, we'll see some movement, but after that I think we'll see a steady roster.
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Post by DERRENMATTS on Jun 26, 2021 4:43:52 GMT -5
A guy on twitter who seems to have a source says that Brad wants to move Rob Williams before or at the draft.
I know nothing of the guy, but now he has my head spinning because I was thinking Rob was going to be a fixture.
Let's see if his source is legit.
If it does happen, I'm curious to know if we go after more disciplined big men who may not necessarily be athletic or explosive as Rob?
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Post by afceltic on Jun 26, 2021 10:10:54 GMT -5
I think Brad, being a "people" and "relationship" guy, will not be like Ainge and constantly shuffle the deck. Feel he will stick with the players he has and brings in. Maybe initially to move the guys who are not good fits who Danny brought in, and to get in the guys he wants, we'll see some movement, but after that I think we'll see a steady roster. As long as Smart is gone, I am tired of him getting praise for losing games for us just because he flops and plays hard.
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Post by DERRENMATTS on Jun 26, 2021 13:11:44 GMT -5
I think Brad, being a "people" and "relationship" guy, will not be like Ainge and constantly shuffle the deck. Feel he will stick with the players he has and brings in. Maybe initially to move the guys who are not good fits who Danny brought in, and to get in the guys he wants, we'll see some movement, but after that I think we'll see a steady roster. As long as Smart is gone, I am tired of him getting praise for losing games for us just because he flops and plays hard. We know Brad likes Smart. We'll see if Udoka does. If anything, let's hope Udoka has Smart playing differently.
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Post by eja117 on Jun 27, 2021 7:43:45 GMT -5
A guy on twitter who seems to have a source says that Brad wants to move Rob Williams before or at the draft. I know nothing of the guy, but now he has my head spinning because I was thinking Rob was going to be a fixture. Let's see if his source is legit. If it does happen, I'm curious to know if we go after more disciplined big men who may not necessarily be athletic or explosive as Rob? Makes sense to sell high. Before he gets hurt again
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Post by DERRENMATTS on Jun 27, 2021 21:36:01 GMT -5
A guy on twitter who seems to have a source says that Brad wants to move Rob Williams before or at the draft. I know nothing of the guy, but now he has my head spinning because I was thinking Rob was going to be a fixture. Let's see if his source is legit. If it does happen, I'm curious to know if we go after more disciplined big men who may not necessarily be athletic or explosive as Rob? Makes sense to sell high. Before he gets hurt again That's what I'm thinking. I'm sure Brad sees the athleitcism and what could be if Rob reaches his potential. But he gets hurt too often. That hurts chemistry and the team rotation. Wonder what a package of Rob + Smart + Thompson could fetch us?
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Post by freshnthehouse on Jun 28, 2021 4:15:16 GMT -5
I def like Rob's game, but his injury history scares me. If they can find a good deal for him, do it.
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Post by DERRENMATTS on Jun 28, 2021 18:46:43 GMT -5
Brad says to get us back to the top level, he has lots of work to do. That involves not only good drafting and good free agent additions, but putting us in good cap situation to make opportunistic trades.
If we sign Fournier to a new contract (which is likely to be bigger than his current salary of 17 mil) and also sign Smart to a new contract by next summer (he's making almost 14 mil this upcoming season, and will probably be looking to make significantly more), that will hamper our ability to sign a max free agent in the summer of '21.
It's expected that Brad will make more moves this summer. We'll see what happens with Fournier and Smart.
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Post by DERRENMATTS on Aug 4, 2021 13:29:51 GMT -5
Either Brad has a plan and his moves are methodically geared to fulfill his plan, or he is making reactionary moves without much of a gameplan.
Knowing how smart and calculated and prepared Brad is, I'm sure every move has been thoroughly thought through and filtered through Zarren, Ainge, andaybe even the players.
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