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Post by DERRENMATTS on Jun 27, 2019 15:06:03 GMT -5
It isn’t official until he officially signs the dotted line — but many legit sources are saying we are the frontrunners, so it seems possible that it happens.
Yeah, 35 mil is very rich for my taste. But Ainge and Zarren are ok with it.
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Post by jmost on Jun 27, 2019 16:07:42 GMT -5
I looked at who is going to be a free agent in the next couple of years, and there aren't many players who we would want and who might be amenable to coming to Boston - the point being, maybe there's no point in saving cap room. Kemba may be the best we can get in the next 1-3 years.
I also pulled up Capela's numbers and he seems to be getting better every year. He's only 24 and is locked up for four more years. Given how salaries keep escalating, maybe $20 mil isn't so crazy for a guy like him. Jaylen will/would probably cost more.
Together, these two deals would balance our roster, shoring up our two obvious areas of need by trading an area of surplus.
I'm not elated or anything like it, but signing Kemba and trading Brown(+ salaries) for Capela is a reasonable plan.
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Post by afceltic on Jun 27, 2019 16:17:42 GMT -5
Why would be ship off Brown and keep Smart who isn't starter quality?
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Post by jmost on Jun 27, 2019 16:46:11 GMT -5
I'd rather trade Smart, but that's not what the rumors are.
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Post by DERRENMATTS on Jun 27, 2019 16:51:57 GMT -5
I bet if we asked Brad and the players, if they’re honest, they’ll say they’d rather keep Smart over Jaylen.
But on the flip side, if a team were picking who they’d rather trade for, they’d take Jaylen over Smart cause he’s oozing with potential.
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Post by DERRENMATTS on Jun 27, 2019 16:54:21 GMT -5
I looked at who is going to be a free agent in the next couple of years, and there aren't many players who we would want and who might be amenable to coming to Boston - the point being, maybe there's no point in saving cap room. Kemba may be the best we can get in the next 1-3 years. I also pulled up Capela's numbers and he seems to be getting better every year. He's only 24 and is locked up for four more years. Given how salaries keep escalating, maybe $20 mil isn't so crazy for a guy like him. Jaylen will/would probably cost more. Together, these two deals would balance our roster, shoring up our two obvious areas of need by trading an area of surplus. I'm not elated or anything like it, but signing Kemba and trading Brown(+ salaries) for Capela is a reasonable plan. Great take. Yeah, it appears we have money to spend and not anyone great to spend it on (unless of course we can spend it on Kawhi or Durant, which isn’t likely from what we’re hearing).
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Post by jmost on Jun 27, 2019 21:25:00 GMT -5
One of the things which seems clearer every day is just how dysfunctional the Celtics were last year, and how much of the problem was guys not buying into what Brad was coaching. Media people who were around the team are now openly talking about how much of a problem Kyrie was, and Rozier isn't even being talked about as someone we might want to hold onto. Combine that with how much emphasis is being placed on how good the draftees are AS PEOPLE, and how coachable Kemba is, and you can see what the lessons were from last year and how Danny and Brad are setting about fixing what went wrong by bringing in guys who want to join together and do what's necessary TO WIN, not to pad their stats so they can get a new contract.
I think, regardless of what the team achieves next year, we are going to like watching these guys a whole lot more than last year.
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Post by DERRENMATTS on Jun 28, 2019 1:15:46 GMT -5
Just from the sound of it, Kemba is a better lockerroom guy and teammate. There isn’t a big gap between Kemba’s game and Kyrie’s, but as far as attitude and what we’ve seen and heard of Kyrie’s from his time in Cleveland and Boston, there’s a big gap between Kemba and Kyrie.
A healthy lockerroom, a tight bond between the guys and coaches should make a huge difference.
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Post by runrondo on Jun 28, 2019 6:54:08 GMT -5
Where are we seeing the Brown rumors for Capela? The newest stuff I see mentions that we have to move GH to take on Capela (if we get Kemba). I can't keep up with these potential scenarios and rumors.
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Post by afceltic on Jun 28, 2019 10:55:06 GMT -5
Brown is only getting brought up here since he is the better player but his contract doesn't match up and we would have to add a few draft picks to match. We only have to match 70% of Capela's 18M salary so that is approximately 12.5M or Smart's contract. That would make more sense for both teams as Houston could use a guy to give CPKnee more of rest and take on the best player on the other team on defense and we obviously need some bigs if we are going all in for Kemba. But Houston only wants picks and not players and we have several of those, I just don't want to give up what will be ending up to be an unprotected 2021 Memphis pick. (top 6 protected next year)
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Post by Roadrunner on Jun 28, 2019 18:28:24 GMT -5
One of the things which seems clearer every day is just how dysfunctional the Celtics were last year, and how much of the problem was guys not buying into what Brad was coaching. Media people who were around the team are now openly talking about how much of a problem Kyrie was, and Rozier isn't even being talked about as someone we might want to hold onto. Combine that with how much emphasis is being placed on how good the draftees are AS PEOPLE, and how coachable Kemba is, and you can see what the lessons were from last year and how Danny and Brad are setting about fixing what went wrong by bringing in guys who want to join together and do what's necessary TO WIN, not to pad their stats so they can get a new contract. I think, regardless of what the team achieves next year, we are going to like watching these guys a whole lot more than last year. I am from CT, and I can say that Walker has a good soul/personality. He led UCONN to the NCAA title as a #5th seed. Walker is basically the player everyone wished Rozier would be.
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Post by DERRENMATTS on Jun 28, 2019 18:45:34 GMT -5
All around (factoring oncourt and offcourt stuff), Kemba seems to be the better addition to Brad’s team than Kyrie.
And each day closer to July 1st, we hear more and more that this is going to happen.
I’m just not sure what our next move is. I’m not buying the Clint Capela trade yet. There’s been talks circulating about it, but I think there’s more to it. I think (hope) we land a bigger fish than Capela.
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Post by eja117 on Jun 29, 2019 6:13:49 GMT -5
Instead of spending 35mill on Kyrie we should offer Brogdon 25mill. Then if they match go for Kemba.
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Post by afceltic on Jun 29, 2019 6:27:30 GMT -5
We don't have to because the Bulls are reportedly going to offer 4 years and 80M for Brogdon. It isn't likely the Bucks will get to keep all of their FA's.
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Post by DERRENMATTS on Jun 29, 2019 11:12:40 GMT -5
I’m on the fence with Brogdon. He’s a tremendous role player who fit in perfectly with Milwaukee’s style of running the offense through Giannis. But the Bucks (as would I) have a set price for. Rogdon that they don’t want to go beyond, cause they cannot overpay for a role player. Middleton has potential to make an All-Star team — not sure about Malcom.
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