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Post by DERRENMATTS on Jun 21, 2019 15:20:32 GMT -5
With a possible 32 million in cap space, word is going around that Ainge is going after a PG. And we've also been in conversations with Houston regarding Clint Capela (who is not a free agent, so we'd be looking at a trade).
For the record, I'm not thrilled about going after Kemba and giving him the max (nor D'Angelo Russell for that matter), and Clint Capela isn't the well rounded Center I'm hoping we acquire. But, combining what's being said about us, this is what the picture could look like.
How will you all feel if we end up with a team of
Kemba Jaylen Tatum Hayward Capela
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Post by eja117 on Jun 21, 2019 16:26:53 GMT -5
With a possible 32 million in cap space, word is going around that Ainge is going after a PG. And we've also been in conversations with Houston regarding Clint Capela (who is not a free agent, so we'd be looking at a trade). For the record, I'm not thrilled about going after Kemba and giving him the max (nor D'Angelo Russell for that matter), and Clint Capela isn't the well rounded Center I'm hoping we acquire. But, combining what's being said about us, this is what the picture could look like. How will you all feel if we end up with a team of Kemba Jaylen Tatum Hayward Capela With Smart on the team? My only issue is that Jaylen in this scenario really needs to come of the bench and play a ton of starter's minutes from the bench and I'm not sure he'd like that. Or Hayward has too. The other thing is I'm not really seeing Tatum as a PF, although in this league it would work up to an extent. But I think this is a very very talented team very capable of good offense. I assume this would have to include a sign and trade with Rozier. Also.....does this assume we ship out Langford for someone? And Grant Williams? So the rest of the team would have to be mid level contract and minimum. Maybe we could do other sign and trades, like Marcus Morris.
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Post by afceltic on Jun 22, 2019 5:55:06 GMT -5
Smart's 12M salery would have to be used to match Capella's 18M salary, which I am all for. He could theoretically be had for just Smart and picks which would be our best case scenario. Kemba could be signed as a FA so in this scenario all we give up would be Smart and picks since we have three first rounders in next year's draft too. Or if we did give up one of our two first round picks from this years draft, that frees up around another 4-6M on top of losing Smart's 12M in the trade so then we would still have around 34M to sign free agents.
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Post by DERRENMATTS on Jun 25, 2019 15:59:06 GMT -5
Marc Stein is saying we and the Mavericks are the frontrunners pursuing Kemba Walker. And a guy named Michael Pina is saying Brad has been keen on Kemba since coaching against him in 2011 when Kemba was a Huskie.
Hmmmm.... how would I feel about Kemba on the team?
Well, we know Brad is a coach who brings the best out of players, even All-Stars caliber players (Kyrie had his best statistical season this past year). Brad helped Evan Turner get a massive contract by resurrecting his career, he helped IT become an All-NBA teamer, he elevated Avery Bradley’s, Jae Crowder’s, Jordan Crawford’s game to a higher level, etc.. We can only imagine what things he can do with Kemba.
Can Kemba adjust his game at 29? We know Kemba can score 40 if he’s determined to do so — but can he learn how to be less ball dominant, and be an off ball scorer? Will he accept, and thrive playing off of Hayward and Tatum?
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Post by Roadrunner on Jun 25, 2019 18:50:50 GMT -5
Marc Stein is saying we and the Mavericks are the frontrunners pursuing Kemba Walker. And a guy named Michael Pina is saying Brad has been keen on Kemba since coaching against him in 2011 when Kemba was a Huskie. Hmmmm.... how would I feel about Kemba on the team? Well, we know Brad is a coach who brings the best out of players, even All-Stars caliber players (Kyrie had his best statistical season this past year). Brad helped Evan Turner get a massive contract by resurrecting his career, he helped IT become an All-NBA teamer, he elevated Avery Bradley’s, Jae Crowder’s, Jordan Crawford’s game to a higher level, etc.. We can only imagine what things he can do with Kemba. Can Kemba adjust his game at 29? We know Kemba can score 40 if he’s determined to do so — but can he learn how to be less ball dominant, and be an off ball scorer? Will he accept, and thrive playing off of Hayward and Tatum? I think DAL has $29m total available. The media also had DAL as the front runner for Al Horford. I will vote Donnie Nelson GM of the year if he signs both Horford, and Walker. If I remember the games versus CHA well, I thought Walker was a net 0. Offensively, he got into the paint at will. Defensively, he was targeted.
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Post by DERRENMATTS on Jun 27, 2019 1:37:36 GMT -5
Who knows, we may end up having these 2 guys come July 1st.
If so, would you rather Jaylen or Smart be the survivor? Who would make the starting lineup more complete — Smart or Jaylen as the shooting guard?
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Post by afceltic on Jun 27, 2019 5:55:13 GMT -5
Smart is a net negative as a "shooting" guard since he can't shoot. Jalen is the better overall player now than Smart is with a ton of room to grow now that the cancer at PG is gone from the team.
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Post by jmost on Jun 27, 2019 6:15:40 GMT -5
It's time to let Jaylen spread his wings and start. Danny has to know whether he's worth a big investment in his next contract, and he doesn't have much time left to decide. If he's not the starting PG I'd prefer Smart to come off the bench if he's still a Celtic.
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Post by runrondo on Jun 27, 2019 7:27:33 GMT -5
I'd have to take advantage of Houston's desperate nature and only offer the bare minimum for Capela which would hopefully mean Jaylen is off the table.
I really don't understand the Kemba interest. He's 29 and he's not much of a PG as far as I've seen. Another PG with a strength in scoring on a bad team who puts up nice numbers. He took 20.9 shots a game last year (Kyrie shot 18.5). Shot 43% from the field, 35.6% from 3. I just don't see it and I don't think he fits what I would assume is a "Brad-type" player.
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Post by DERRENMATTS on Jun 27, 2019 10:04:43 GMT -5
I'd have to take advantage of Houston's desperate nature and only offer the bare minimum for Capela which would hopefully mean Jaylen is off the table. I really don't understand the Kemba interest. He's 29 and he's not much of a PG as far as I've seen. Another PG with a strength in scoring on a bad team who puts up nice numbers. He took 20.9 shots a game last year (Kyrie shot 18.5). Shot 43% from the field, 35.6% from 3. I just don't see it and I don't think he fits what I would assume is a "Brad-type" player. My concern as well. My only hope, if this signing happens, is Kemba significantly adjusts his role — the way KG, PP and RA adjusted their roles, to do what’s best for the team and for winning. I don’t want the ball stuck in his hands, but rather I want him to be an example of self sacrifice. I want his usage to go down, his PPG to dip, but his efficieny and assists to increase.
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Post by runrondo on Jun 27, 2019 10:31:49 GMT -5
I'd have to take advantage of Houston's desperate nature and only offer the bare minimum for Capela which would hopefully mean Jaylen is off the table. I really don't understand the Kemba interest. He's 29 and he's not much of a PG as far as I've seen. Another PG with a strength in scoring on a bad team who puts up nice numbers. He took 20.9 shots a game last year (Kyrie shot 18.5). Shot 43% from the field, 35.6% from 3. I just don't see it and I don't think he fits what I would assume is a "Brad-type" player. My concern as well. My only hope, if this signing happens, is Kemba significantly adjusts his role — the way KG, PP and RA adjusted their roles, to do what’s best for the team and for winning. I don’t want the ball stuck in his hands, but rather I want him to be an example of self sacrifice. I want his usage to go down, his PPG to dip, but his efficieny and assists to increase. Don't get me wrong, if Danny is truly interested and wants him I'll trust that he believes Kemba fits or can change. I was just hoping Brown/Tatum could take on a bigger role and adding a score first PG with poor efficiency didn't seem like something I'd be looking for. I don't believe Danny is someone who will grab a consolation prize just to make some noise.
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Post by afceltic on Jun 27, 2019 10:35:03 GMT -5
Everything that I have heard is that Kemba is the perfect PG to run Brad's system and that he is the perfect fit for the Celtics. He is a strong leader and would want to be a Celtic unlike the cancer. He also has UConn ties which help in Boston's favor. The deal that was reported is 4 years and 141M. So that means we trade picks for Capela and go after big guys with our med-level and cap exemption which would allow us to sign one guy not counting the mid-level to go over the cap. Robin Lopez for 10M was the example that they used on ESPN.
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Post by runrondo on Jun 27, 2019 10:51:35 GMT -5
Isaiah was a shoot first PG that excelled with Brad, but I thought it helped that IT could be the only focus of the offense. That won't be the case with this team with GH, Tatum, and Brown. If I ruminate long enough, I can convince myself this will be great in the end if Brad/Danny really want him. I just worry that this is just Kemba's camp trying to scare the Hornets that he might leave so he gets offered that real max contract.
I'm really into the Capela idea though if we're able to get him without giving up Tatum/Brown.
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Post by eja117 on Jun 27, 2019 13:24:13 GMT -5
Everything that I have heard is that Kemba is the perfect PG to run Brad's system and that he is the perfect fit for the Celtics. He is a strong leader and would want to be a Celtic unlike the cancer. He also has UConn ties which help in Boston's favor. The deal that was reported is 4 years and 141M. So that means we trade picks for Capela and go after big guys with our med-level and cap exemption which would allow us to sign one guy not counting the mid-level to go over the cap. Robin Lopez for 10M was the example that they used on ESPN. 35 per year for Kemba? I'm out
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Post by FLCeltsFan on Jun 27, 2019 14:34:51 GMT -5
According to Woj, the Celtics are the frontrunners for Kemba as the Hornets aren't willing to give him the super max. But as with everything else, it is a rumor, even coming from Woj and I take it with a grain of salt.
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