Draft news and rumors

[FLCeltsFan]

10 days till the draft and things are going to heat up as far as rumors and news of workouts, etc.  Figured it would be good to have a thread to keep track.  Just saw this on Twitter

High lottery pick Josh Jackson canceled today's workout with the Boston Celtics according to Jeff Goodman and Marc Spears.   Reading some reaction to this.  Word is that Jackson has a promise from a team.   Jackson hasn't worked out for the Sixers yet so rumors are that the Lakers are the ones giving him a promise.  Well that would send Lonzo on down the draft, maybe to Sixers or maybe lower.  But then again, maybe the Sixers promised Jackson without a workout.   Things are getting interesting. 

[DERRENMATTS]

Wow, not another high pick choosing not to workout for us. First Lonzo, now Josh. Guess all agents know Ainge is taking Fultz.

[FLCeltsFan]

Jun 12, 2017 22:53:57 GMT -5 DERRENMATTS said:

Wow, not another high pick choosing not to workout for us. First Lonzo, now Josh. Guess all agents know Ainge is taking Fultz.

Lonao's dad desperately wants him to go to the Lakers and as a lifetime Lakers fan, he doesn't want him on the Celtics.  I don't think that decision had anything to do with who the Celtics are taking.

Now, Jackson may have made that decision thinking that the Celtics are taking Fultz so why waste his time, especially if he has a promise from the Lakers or the Sixers. 

[DERRENMATTS]

If Ball doesn't go at [HASH]2, I doubt Philly takes him. They have Simmons, who they feel can run the Point. Plus, that'll mean they have 2 Points whose main criticism is their shooting.

So if Lakers take Jackson, I wonder who Philly takes?

[freshnthehouse]

Jun 12, 2017 23:42:10 GMT -5 DERRENMATTS said:

If Ball doesn't go at [HASH]2, I doubt Philly takes him. They have Simmons, who they feel can run the Point. Plus, that'll mean they have 2 Points whose main criticism is their shooting.

So if Lakers take Jackson, I wonder who Philly takes?

I'd say ball or de'aron fox.

[eja117]

Actually I would think the Sixers would take Ball. He's a better shooter than Fox and they have pretty good forwards but need better guard play. They're a young team and Lonzo took a young UCLA and made everyone on that team way better.

[FLCeltsFan]

According to Adrian Wojnarowski of The Vertical, Markelle Fultz has hired Raymond Brothers of I AM Sports & Entertainment to be his agent. Brothers currently represents Portland’s Al-Farouq Aminu, Orlando’s D.J. Augustin, Chicago's Jerian Grant and Memphis' Zach Randolph. I'm pretty sure that he represented Tony Allen at one time also.

Adam Zagoria of Zagsblog.com reports Fultz is expected to visit with the Lakers this week. The Lakers are also working out Kentucky's De'Aaron Fox on Tuesday.

[FLCeltsFan]

Assorted draft rumors. 

The signs keep pointing to the Lakers passing on Lonzo Ball with the No. 2 pick in the draft.
After reports suggesting Ball would have to impress to be Los Angeles' pick, the latest isn't promising for the UCLA star. According to Mark Medina of the Los Angeles Daily News, Ball did the exact opposite by appearing in less than peak physical condition.

That's two strikes against him with LA -  One he was out of shape for his workout and 2 his dad is causing teams to think twice.  I wouldn't be surprised to see the Lakers passing on him and taking another player with the 2nd pick. 

According to Ian Begley of ESPN, the Knicks are 'intrigued' by Louisville guard Donovan Mitchell's potential and wing span, with the thought of an Avery Bradley 2.0 forming in New York.

According to Jeff Goodman, Fultz didn’t shoot the ball exceptionally well in his workout in Boston,”   “But they know he can shoot the ball.  So, it’s one workout. …I still think it’s gonna be Fultz at [No.1], Lonzo Ball at [No. 2].” Bad shooting days happen, so the Celtics will certainly not base their overall assessment of Fultz based on such a small sample.  Let’s hope not anyway.

Marcus Smart had a bad workout with the Celtics because he had a cold the day he worked out for them and they still took him so I don't think one workout will sway them.  I think they put more into what they learned from talking to him. 

Most respected mock drafts have Tatum going fourth or fifth, but given his offensive skill, it wouldn’t be a surprise if he went earlier. In addition to Tatum, the Suns are expected to consider Kentucky point guard De’Aaron Fox, Kansas small forward Josh Jackson and Florida State forward Jonathan Isaac. That’s assuming UCLA point guard Lonzo Ball doesn’t fall. “In my opinion, Jayson Tatum is out there by himself,” ESPN college analyst and former NBA veteran LaPhonso Ellis said in a recent interview on the draft’s talent at small forward.

[FLCeltsFan]

There is not a lot of info on players the Celtics have worked out but here is what I have found.

Celtics brought in
Markelle Fultz,
Marcus Keene,
Tacko Fall,
Michael Ojo,
Braxton Key,
PJ Dozier,
Obi Enechionyia,
Alize Johnson,
Chandler Hutchison,
Jacobi Boykins,
Malik Monk,
Harry Giles,
TJ Leaf
Jonathan Isaac against Erik McCree
Dennis Smith
Derek Willis
Rolands Smits
Dylan Ennis
Antonius Cleveland (2 workouts)
Jonah Bolden

These are all the names I have picked up from Twitter, etc who have been rumored to work out for the Celtics. I imagine most of these are for the 2nd round picks that we have starting at [HASH]37. No word of any of the other top picks working out for them like Fox, Tatum, etc.

[FLCeltsFan]

Underclassmen who have declared themselves eligible for the NBA draft:
Edrice Adebayo (Kentucky, freshman)
Jarrett Allen (Texas, freshman)
Ike Anigbogu (UCLA, freshman)
OG Anunoby (Indiana, sophomore)
Dwayne Bacon (Florida State, sophomore)
Lonzo Ball (UCLA, freshman)
Jordan Bell (Oregon, junior)
James Blackmon Jr. (Indiana, junior)
Antonio Blakeney (LSU, sophomore)
Tony Bradley (North Carolina, freshman)
Isaiah Briscoe (Kentucky, sophomore)
Dillon Brooks (Oregon, junior)
Thomas Bryant (Indiana, sophomore)
Clandell Cetoute (Thiel College (PA), junior)
John Collins (Wake Forest, sophomore)
Zach Collins (Gonzaga, freshman)
Chance Comanche (Arizona, sophomore)
Tyler Dorsey (Oregon, sophomore)
PJ Dozier (South Carolina, sophomore)
Jawun Evans (Oklahoma State, sophomore)
Tony Farmer (Lee College (TX), sophomore)
De'Aaron Fox (Kentucky, freshman)
Markelle Fultz (Washington, freshman)
Harry Giles (Duke, freshman)
Isaac Humphries (Kentucky, sophomore)
Tre Hunter (Mt. San Jacinto College)
Jonathan Isaac (Florida State, freshman)
Frank Jackson (Duke, freshman)
Josh Jackson (Kansas, freshman)
Justin Jackson (North Carolina, junior)
Jaylen Johnson (Louisville, junior)
Ted Kapita (North Carolina State, freshman)
Marcus Keene (Central Michigan, junior)
Luke Kennard (Duke, sophomore)
Kyle Kuzma (Utah, junior)
TJ Leaf (UCLA, freshman)
Tyler Lydon (Syracuse, sophomore)
Lauri Markkanen (Arizona, freshman)
Eric Mika (BYU, sophomore)
Donovan Mitchell (Louisville, sophomore)
Malik Monk (Kentucky, freshman)
Johnathan Motley (Baylor, junior)
Austin Nichols (Virginia, junior)
Semi Ojeleye (SMU, junior)
Cameron Oliver (Nevada, sophomore)
Justin Patton (Creighton, freshman)
L.J. Peak (Georgetown, junior)
Ivan Rabb (California, sophomore)
Xavier Rathan-Mayes (Florida State, junior)
Devin Robinson (Florida, junior)
Josh Robinson (Austin Peay, junior)
Kobi Simmons (Arizona, freshman)
Dennis Smith Jr. (North Carolina State, freshman)
Edmond Sumner (Xavier, sophomore)
Caleb Swanigan (Purdue, sophomore)
Jayson Tatum (Duke, freshman)
Matt Taylor (New Mexico State, junior)
Trevor Thompson (Ohio State, junior)
Melo Trimble (Maryland, junior)
Craig Victor II (LSU, junior)
Antone Warren (Antelope Valley CC (CA), sophomore)
Nigel Williams-Goss (Gonzaga, junior)
D.J. Wilson (Michigan, junior)


International players under 22 years old who have declared themselves
eligible for the NBA draft (foreign players who turn 22 during 2015 are
automatically entered into the draft) [country is where player plays]:
Simon Birgander (Spain)
Luka Bozic (Croatia)
Vlatko Cancar (Serbia)
Wesley Alves da Silva (Brazil)
George de Paula (Brazil)
Isaiah Hartenstein (Lithuania)
Jonathan Jeanne (France)
Alpha Kaba (Serbia)
Tidjan Keita (Canada)
Frank Ntilikina (France)


Players who declared and later withdrew:
College
Shaqquan Aaron (USC, sophomore)
Jaylen Adams (St. Bonaventure, junior)
Deng Adel (Louisville, sophomore)
Jashaun Agosto (LIU, freshman)
Bashir Ahmed (St. John's, junior)
Rawle Alkins (Arizona, freshman)
Mark Alstork (Wright State, junior)
Jaylen Barford (Arkansas, junior)
Trae Bell-Haynes (Vermont, junior)
Joel Berry II (North Carolina, junior)
Trevon Bluiett (Xavier, junior)
Bennie Boatwright (USC, sophomore)
Jacobi Boykins (Louisiana Tech, junior)
Rodney Bullock (Providence, junior)
Jevon Carter (West Virginia, junior)
Joseph Chartouny (Fordham, sophomore)
Donte' Clark (Massachusetts, junior)
Chris Clemons (Campbell, sophomore)
David Collette (Utah, junior)
Angel Delgado (Seton Hall, junior)
Hamidou Diallo (Kentucky, freshman)
Vince Edwards (Purdue, junior)
John Egbunu (Florida, junior)
Jon Elmore (Marshall, junior)
Obi Enechionyia (Temple, junior)
Drew Eubanks (Oregon State, sophomore)
Tacko Fall (Central Florida, sophomore)
Brandon Goodwin (FGCU, junior)
Donte Grantham (Clemson, junior)
Isaac Haas (Purdue, junior)
Aaron Holiday (UCLA, sophomore)
Chandler Hutchison (Boise State, junior)
Justin Jackson (Maryland, freshman)
Alize Johnson (Missouri State junior)
B.J. Johnson (La Salle, junior)
Darin Johnson (CSU, junior)
Robert Johnson (Indiana, junior)
Andrew Jones (Texas, freshman)
Kerem Kanter (Green Bay, junior)
Braxton Key (Alabama, freshman)
George King (Colorado, junior)
Khadeem Lattin (Oklahoma, junior)
William Lee (UAB, junior)
Zach Lofton (Texas Southern, junior)
Daryl Macon (Arkansas, junior)
Marin Maric (Northern Illinois, junior)
Yante Maten (Georgia, junior)
Markis McDuffie (Wichita State, sophomore)
MiKyle McIntosh (Illinois State, junior)
Matthew Morgan (Cornell, sophomore)
Shaquille Morris (Wichita State, junior)
Svi Mykhailiuk (Kansas, junior)
Divine Myles (Stetson, junior)
Derick Newton (Stetson, sophomore)
Randy Onwuasor (Southern Utah, junior)
Theo Pinson (North Carolina, junior)
Martavius Robinson (Lewis & Clark CC (Illinois), sophomore)
Maverick Rowan (North Carolina State, sophomore)
Corey Sanders (Rutgers, sophomore)
Victor Sanders (Idaho, junior)
Jaaron Simmons (Ohio, junior)
Fred Sims Jr. (Chicago State, sophomore)
Zach Smith (Texas Tech, junior)
Kamau Stokes (Kansas State, sophomore)
James Thompson IV (Eastern Michigan, sophomore)
Stephen Thompson Jr. (Oregon State, sophomore)
Moritz Wagner (Michigan, sophomore)
Tevonn Walker (Valparaiso, junior)
Thomas Welsh (UCLA, junior)
Thomas Wilder (Western Michigan, junior)
Cecil Williams (Central Michigan, junior)
Johnathan Williams (Gonzaga, junior)
Kam Williams (Ohio State, junior)
Christian Wilson (Texas-San Antonio, junior)
Omer Yurtseven (North Carolina State, freshman)

International
Ege Arar (Turkey)
Laurynas Beliauskas (Lithuania)
Terrence Bieshaar (Spain)
Laurynas Birutis (Lithuania)
Leo Cizmic (Spain)
Berkan Durmaz (Turkey)
Martynas Echodas (Lithuania)
Cyrille Eliezer-Vanerot (France)
Aquiles Ferreira (Brazil)
Diego Flaccadori (Italy)
Tolga Gecim (Turkey)
Yoan Granvorka (France)
Egemen Guven (Turkey)
Karlis Helmanis (Latvia)
Aleksa Ilic (Montenegro)
Verners Kohs (Czech Republic)
Antonios Koniaris (Greece)
Arnoldas Kulboka (Germany)
Rodions Kurucs (Spain)
Axel Louissaint (Switzerland)
Michail Lountzis (Greece)
Gytis Masiulis (Lithuania)
Lovro Mazalin (Croatia)
Regimantas Miniotas (Lithuania)
Kostja Mushidi (Serbia)
Margiris Normantas (Lithuania)
Elie Okobo (France)
Viny Okouo (Spain)
Ayberk Olmaz Istanbul (Turkey)
Lucas Pereira (Brazil)
Martynas Sajus (Poland)
Borisa Simanic (Serbia)
Nik Slavica (Croatia)
Berk Ugurlu (Turkey)
Kristupas Zemaitis (Lithuania)
Zou Yuchen (China)

[DERRENMATTS]

Jun 13, 2017 12:16:46 GMT -5 FLCeltsFan said:

There is not a lot of info on players the Celtics have worked out but here is what I have found.

Celtics brought in
Markelle Fultz,
Marcus Keene,
Tacko Fall,
Michael Ojo,
Braxton Key,
PJ Dozier,
Obi Enechionyia,
Alize Johnson,
Chandler Hutchison,
Jacobi Boykins,
Malik Monk,
Harry Giles,
TJ Leaf
Jonathan Isaac against Erik McCree
Dennis Smith
Derek Willis
Rolands Smits
Dylan Ennis
Antonius Cleveland (2 workouts)
Jonah Bolden

These are all the names I have picked up from Twitter, etc who have been rumored to work out for the Celtics. I imagine most of these are for the 2nd round picks that we have starting at [HASH]37. No word of any of the other top picks working out for them like Fox, Tatum, etc.

I wonder where Harry Giles ends up being picked?

[FLCeltsFan]

basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/246278/Josh-Jackson-To-Boston-At-No-1-Gaining-Momentum

It appears that some people are thinking that Danny is going to pick Josh Jackson with the [HASH]1 pick.  Not trade down, but take him [HASH]1...  Hopefully that's just idle chatter. 

"I've picked Danny's brain for years," one GM said. "Jackson is an Ainge player all the way. Tough, athletic, long, versatile, elite motor. If he's keeping the pick, Jackson just to me, far and away, is the most Celtics-type player for them to draft. From all my conversations with them, I'm convinced they'll take Jackson No. 1."
There have been concerns by some agents about the lack of playing time that could be afforded to any player going to Boston.
"We have great respect for Boston and Danny Ainge," Jackson's agent B.J. Armstrong said. "That's a championship-caliber organization and Josh brings the things that I know Danny values. He can defend his position at an elite level. He can rebound for his position at an elite level and he can pass for his position at an elite level. All the championship-caliber teams are looking for players who can do those three things. And I know they want winners.
"We're in dialogue with Boston. We're very respectful of them. They have the No. 1 pick and can select whoever they choose. We just need to see how things play out over the next week."
"We like him a lot," the Celtics source said about Jackson. "But we like several guys a lot. We've got a week to figure it out."

[DERRENMATTS]

Wouldn't shock me. Jackson is nearly the type of player Jaylen is, and Ainge obviously loves Jaylen.

If this is the pick, we better hope Jackson's shooting gets better.

[FLCeltsFan]

Rumor floating of the 3rd pick and Saric and the Kings first round pick next year for the [HASH]1 pick.  But Jackson and Saric seems to duplicate in positions we already have players. 

That may go along with the Celtics actually wanting Jackson rather than Fultz. Also saw one scout saying that Fox may be Danny's guy if he can trade down.

[freshnthehouse]

Jun 16, 2017 16:24:18 GMT -5 FLCeltsFan said:

Rumor floating of the 3rd pick and Saric and the Kings first round pick next year for the [HASH]1 pick.  But Jackson and Saric seems to duplicate in positions we already have players. 

That may go along with the Celtics actually wanting Jackson rather than Fultz. Also saw one scout saying that Fox may be Danny's guy if he can trade down.

Man that's one hell of an offer. I love Fultz, but I'd have to think about that.

I think Saric's main position in the NBA is gonna be PF, and Jackson is gonna play at SF, so I think they'd work together.