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Post by DERRENMATTS on Nov 5, 2016 4:20:02 GMT -5
I read we're not interested in trading for Lopez because it'll eliminate our cap flexibility this summer.
But I'd like to see us be creative and be a facilitator as the 3rd team in a multi-team trade that gets Brook out of Brooklyn.
Main thing is weaken the Nets so our chances of landing a top 3 pick gets better and better.
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Post by jrmzt on Nov 5, 2016 16:47:55 GMT -5
Well that depends on whether we end up helping Lopez go to someone in the East who'd end up blocking our way once they get Lopez as the last piece...someone like the Pacers or even the Bulls.
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Post by DERRENMATTS on Nov 5, 2016 18:41:38 GMT -5
It's a bullet I'm willing to bite (though of course him going out west would be ideal).
We have a chance to build something special with another few more successful drafts.
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Post by jrmzt on Nov 5, 2016 19:47:52 GMT -5
It's a bullet I'm willing to bite (though of course him going out west would be ideal). We have a chance to build something special with another few more successful drafts. To be honest I'd argue that we're nearly ready to compete even without a few drafts. A guy like Jaylen Brown may need a year or two before he comes into his prime. Have a look at Paul George's stats and thats where I'm hoping Jaylen's trajectory is heading towards. PG13 was only ready by his third year. So if we see a similar trajectory for Brown, we'd have a Brown in his prime by 2018-2019. Year Team GP GS MPG FG% 3P% FT% RPG APG SPG BPG PPG 2010–11 Indiana 61 19 20.7 .453 .297 .762 3.7 1.1 1.0 .4 7.8 2011–12 Indiana 66 66 29.7 .440 .385 .802 5.6 2.4 1.6 .6 12.1 2012–13 Indiana 79 79 37.6 .419 .362 .807 7.6 4.1 1.8 .6 17.4 This puts him alongside an established Avery Bradley, Jae Crowder and hopefully either Smart or Rozier takes that next step. Lets face it...draft draft draft and we're not getting anywhere because we keep hoping that a draft pick comes in and suddenly pours in 20 PPG...thats just not happening. Our current roster is good and it'll take just abit more time to develop. Give it one more year or two and we could easily see a starting 5 of Smart, Bradley, Brown, Crowder and Horford, with the 6th man being Rozier, which is a championship contender if you ask me.
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Post by oldtimeball on Nov 5, 2016 21:39:46 GMT -5
That's a very small line up.. Brown has been very good when he had starters minutes..Scored almost 20 and his plus minus was off the charts +17?.....
I was confused reading it.. It takes two years to develop a rookie.. That's why we need to trade for a proven vet now.
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Post by jrmzt on Nov 5, 2016 22:43:50 GMT -5
That's a very small line up.. Brown has been very good when he had starters minutes..Scored almost 20 and his plus minus was off the charts +17?..... I was confused reading it.. It takes two years to develop a rookie.. That's why we need to trade for a proven vet now. Small lineups is how the game is being played these days. Even big men are having to adapt to be more than just a tree in the paint...guys like Anthony Davis and Karl Anthony Towns are all extending their ranges to help their teams. Look at Golden State...Draymond Green sometimes plays center for them and he is 6'7 on a good day. I'd argue that we've moved past playing a game of heights to a more refined game that requires players to be skilled at more facets of the game rather than specializing in only one small portion of it..If this were the 70s or 80s, Detroit with their Drummond monster would be a playoff team but in today's game they're a bottom dweller. Same with Anthony Davis...amazing player but never made the playoffs. I'd rather wait 2 years for Jaylen to be a superstar than trade for some aging expensive vet right now. These things come in cycles and there is just no point in mortgaging your future for a chance to compete right now because lets face it...you'd have to give up some top quality players for a vet which weakens the team anyway. So you're back to square one.
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Post by oldtimeball on Nov 6, 2016 3:52:32 GMT -5
And anytime you make a draft pick its a gamble. The one problem with the example you mention is green is capable of things horford isn't.. Horford is a good player.. Not a great Rebounder. Not a great rim protector. We are bad enough already and you want to take Amir out.. Yikes.. I can see us getting two lottery picks with that lineup..
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