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Post by eja117 on Jun 27, 2014 9:21:35 GMT -5
Cleveland...got the right guy hands down. Attractive to free agents and Kyrie. Attractive to Canadian fans (they should absolutely try to expand their brand to Canada now with TWO top Canadian picks in the past two drafts on the same team). Replaces Deng who can walk and save them money
Milwaukee....got a GREAT prospect to go with the Greek Freak. But look at the 2nd round. A fine Euro stash but also a two time all-sec player. Those guys don't grow on trees. Both C Parsons and Glen Davis were SEC guys taken in the 2nd round and I think Bass was too. So they took a shot.
Philly....got possibly the best player in the draft and a good Euro stash but then they rocked the 2nd with another good euro stash, KJ McD, Jerami Grant, and Jordan McRae. They also got a future first and second from Orlando
Orlando ...every reason to be happy even thought Philly slaughtered them in the trade. They got a 6ft 4 pg to go with Oladipo, only he can learn for a year or two behind Jameer. Also got one of the single best athletes in the draft (A Gordon)
Jazz...Exum. Great player for them. Rodney Hood late in the first.....sweet.
Lakers. Hung tight and get a high floor guy. Also bought Jordan Clarkson late in the 2nd round.
Charlotte....love what they did. They gave MKG another year. Brought in an athletic UNC guy late in the first that has already done well in the NBDL and ACC and now look at their big man rotation....Al Jefferson, Josh McRoberts, Cody Zeller, Noah Vonleh. In two years that could be really good and they insure themselves.
Suns....ain't nothing wrong with this. Ennis, TJ Warren, a fine Euro stash, and a 7ft 1 center late in the 2nd. Depth. Gotta have it.
Denver.....murdered the Bulls giving up Doug McDermott and getting back Jusuf N, Gary Harris and a 2015 2nd rounder. They'll wait a year or two on Jusuf, which is fine. They have bigs up the yin yang now.
Rockets. Smartly avoided a trap and went for a very good stash guy while their roster is full. They have no business adding salary while trying to get a great player in a trade or free agency.
The Heat. Napier should make Lebron happy and maybe give an important position an upgrade
Spurs....Kyle Anderson at 30? That is the fault of the losers in this draft. Unreal.
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Post by eja117 on Jun 27, 2014 9:31:47 GMT -5
Losers.
Celtics....just plain didn't get what they needed. Got what they didn't need. Didn't make fireworks happen. Started committing to a long rebuild through the draft.
Orlando.....yeah. I just put them in the winners. But ask yourself this. Is Elfrid Payton worth Dario Saric? And a future first? And a future 2nd? They better hope so
Sactown....took McLemore last year. Took Stauskas 8th this year. Don't like it.
Bulls. Traded two great players and future stuff for Doug McDermott. Until I see Melo walk through their door they're a draft day loser in my book.
T Wolves.....they need a big man pretty badly. Naturally they took two wings and a euro stash wing
Hawks. A Payne. Not really a bad pick. I thought there was better out there. Tavares is an interesting stash. I just think the nba (draft) is like the Game of Thrones. You win or you die. I don't think they won here. If you're not first you're last and that's pretty much the Hawks every single year no matter what they do or where they pick. Granted they have Al Horford coming back, and Lucas N from last year and Dennis Schroeder turning like 19. But still. Whoop de doo
Raptors.....Worst. Pick. Ever. One of em anyway. Yes. I get that free agents don't sign with the Raps. Would you? Would you sign with a team that makes picks like this?
Thunder....not in love with their picks at all. Not at all.
Memphis...took Jordan Adams with Kyle Anderson on the board. Folks. This is why the Spurs are better
Brooklyn.....they were dinking around in the 2nd round doing very little of consequence.
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Post by nateval on Jun 27, 2014 9:43:43 GMT -5
Spurs....Kyle Anderson at 30? That is the fault of the losers in this draft. Unreal. Man Anderson at 30 to the Spurs I bet they were jumping for joy when he fell in their laps. After how well Diaw played for them in their system I'm sure the Anderson pick was a no brainer. The rich get richer Anderson wont be the best prospect in this draft but I bet he makes a lot of GM's look stupid |
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Post by eja117 on Jun 27, 2014 9:46:10 GMT -5
Spurs....Kyle Anderson at 30? That is the fault of the losers in this draft. Unreal. Man Anderson at 30 to the Spurs I bet they were jumping for joy when he fell in their laps. After how well Diaw played for them in their system I'm sure the Anderson pick was a no brainer. The rich get richer Anderson wont be the best prospect in this draft but I bet he makes a lot of GM's look stupid That's because a ton of GMs are stupid. If I was an owner I think I'd just make the picks myself and just have the buck stop with me unless I really really trusted my guy....and if I don't why is he my GM? |
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Post by freshnthehouse on Jun 27, 2014 15:38:57 GMT -5
Losers. T Wolves.....they need a big man pretty badly. Naturally they took two wings and a euro stash wing I don't think they need a big too badly. They are set at center and they are playing it like Love is going to be their for a while. I can't believe they didn't take Harris. That team needs more scoring from the wings. Especially when your only wing that has an offensive game (KMartin) is made out of glass. |
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Post by eja117 on Jun 27, 2014 16:35:51 GMT -5
The T Wolves have Love at pf and nobody on the planet believes he will be there after the end of the year. At center they have a fine one in Pek and a decent backup in G Deng, but that's it. After that it's Dante Cunningham. And Ronny Turiaf.
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Post by cfoo on Jun 27, 2014 17:02:08 GMT -5
I don't see how the celtics are losers. I didn't want us to force a trade and we got my favorite player in the draft. We did exactly what i wanted them to do. If you looked at the trades that were out there none of them were a perfect fit as it was. I think taking our time and letting this team develop is really smart on the celtics part. We wanted gritty, smart hardworking, process oriented players and we got that.
Stevens is a young coach. He's also been very successful because he has well coached teams that are guard oriented. We need other pieces but I'd rather get the right ones and build it over time vs trying to make a splash or a bad deal just for the sake of fireworks.
I think we did absolutely the right thing. Fireworks we want and that's fine. But making bad deals is not.
None of the players in this draft were worth doing that over. They are very young. Neither is Kevin Love for that matter. Deals have to be out there to be had. We can still get those pieces potentially and we did a much smarter thing than people realize.
I have zero regrets over our draft. It worked out and is a blessing in disguise imo.
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Post by Roadrunner on Jun 27, 2014 17:35:12 GMT -5
Hinkie from PHI just PO'd the fanbase. One of the worst teams last year, and this year neither guy they select w/ 2 lottery selections will play. Guess that means BOS won't be getting that first round selection from them, because there is no way they are making the playoffs.
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Post by cfoo on Jun 27, 2014 17:57:20 GMT -5
We got a tough as nails pg and a leader and we are losers... I wanted leadership and direction and we did exactly what i wanted. Solid smart drafting. You then add those pieces but at our core that's what people are missing. You need a foundation. How other teams build is not that great. It's why teams like milwaulkee are what they are. Jabari will play there for some years and do well then he'll come to us when we need that piece. Because we have the foundation to make moves like that.
I dont see how you can say philly are winners and the celtics arent. S imilar situations but different. Embiid is a gamble in ways. Both him and noel get to battle it out. We have Rondo and smart. I like our situation better. That's not set in stone but I think the end game of that looks pretty good and how i'd want to build.
If Embiid fell to us great but i'm not selling the farm to do that. Same with wiggins or parker. Good players for sure. but very young.
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Post by cfoo on Jun 27, 2014 18:20:17 GMT -5
banking everything on embiid is sillyness and you'd think most people would realize that by now. He could be really good but Smart is going to be a beast. We can still talk trades too. But my gut says Smart is here for a bit.
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Post by eja117 on Jun 27, 2014 19:44:02 GMT -5
Smart isn't a good shooter. There were 5 players in this draft that could have possibly helped us build and all 5 were taken when we picked. We need a very good big. Didn't get one. It's not that they picked badly, it's that they picked where they did. They got non-difference makers. I don't think today Smart is a combo guard even. Maybe out of necessity he's a combo guard. Maybe. Maybe him and Rondo can become good shooters. Maybe. Basically the success of this draft is 100% dependent on Smart becoming a good shooter. I don't like that at all.
Philly rocked our world in this draft. They didn't need a pg and neither did we. They needed a big and so did we. They got a great prospect of a big.....and all sorts of other stuff like future picks. We got a pg that isn't a good shooter.
That's the diff.
Basically we lost Rondo in the draft. That's what happened. Got nothing. Now there's no reason for him to stay here. Only we got nothing for him too, because teams saw our problem and low balled us.
So if we gained leadership too bad, because to me Rondo is a leader and we lost him. He's gone. Make your farewell card now. Now we have zero all stars. Had one. Now have none. That's what happened in this draft.
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Post by cfoo on Jun 27, 2014 19:56:14 GMT -5
Not after we trade for Kevin Love.
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Post by eja117 on Jun 27, 2014 19:59:50 GMT -5
Not after we trade for Kevin Love. I'll believe it when I see it. I highly highly doubt the TWolves are on the phone asking about James Young, Sully, Marcus Smart, and Ko right now. We have to face reality. The Twolves don't like that package. It woulda been done by now. We also have to face nobody is overbidding for Rondo. Woulda happened by now. All we can do is pray they face reality before we do. |
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Post by DERRENMATTS on Jun 28, 2014 0:30:14 GMT -5
That's why we ought to have rebuilded with both feet in the water. We won too many games in a totally unnecessary year. Had we lost 5 more games, maybe we pick in the top 4.
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Post by freshnthehouse on Jun 28, 2014 2:48:52 GMT -5
The T Wolves have Love at pf and nobody on the planet believes he will be there after the end of the year. At center they have a fine one in Pek and a decent backup in G Deng, but that's it. After that it's Dante Cunningham. And Ronny Turiaf. But how many centers are you going to play in a rotation, though? And who was available for centers at the 13 pick? Nurkic? He'd be third string behind Pek and Deing. And as for PFs Payne is about the only one available worth taking at 13, but is he really a better prospect than Lavine? He definitely has less bust potential but he definitely doesn't have the upside of a Lavine. And if Love goes via trade Martin is almost certainly going as well, so they'll have a hole there as well. |
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