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Post by eja117 on Jun 18, 2014 11:05:30 GMT -5
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Post by eja117 on Jun 18, 2014 12:04:05 GMT -5
bleacherreport.com/articles/2095776-2014-nba-mock-draft-projecting-every-pick-of-round-1-post-nba-finals/page/7I think it's coming down to Vonleh and A Gordon because they have the defensive ability needed. Gordon gets the slight nod as an elite athlete and a player capable of defending at two positions, if not three. He may even be able to guard 4 or all 5. If you can imagine Eric Williams on steroids......then take that player and give him steroids and a red bull....you may have A Gordon. Vonleh might be more like Biyombo on steroids, which is great. Samuel Dalembertish.......but still
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Post by derrenattheoffice on Jun 18, 2014 12:53:34 GMT -5
Are you on steroids?
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Post by cfoo on Jun 18, 2014 13:28:25 GMT -5
Aaron Gordon is Eric Williams on steroids. Minus the teeth.
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Post by freshnthehouse on Jun 18, 2014 15:06:29 GMT -5
Let's all do steroids!
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Post by Roadrunner on Jun 18, 2014 22:11:20 GMT -5
Aaron Gordon is Eric Williams on steroids. Minus the teeth. Are those gold teeth? |
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Post by cfoo on Jun 18, 2014 23:06:56 GMT -5
I don't know. The last time I saw Eric Williams he was on basketball wives and part of the whole Kardashian culture or jersey version of it. Jersey shore stuff. He's from jersey though.
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Post by eja117 on Jun 23, 2014 20:19:04 GMT -5
My mock
1
Cleveland
Jabari Parker
2
Milwaukee
Andrew Wiggins
3
*Philadelphia
Joel Embiid
4
Orlando
Marcus Smart
5
Utah
Noah Vonleh
6
*Boston
Dante Exum
7
LA Lakers
Julius Randle
8
Sacramento
Aaron Gordon
9
*Charlotte
Zach LaVine
10
*Philadelphia
Rodney Hood
11
*Denver
James Young
12
*Orlando
Dario Saric
13
*Minnesota
Adreian Payne
14
*Phoenix
Kyle Anderson
15
*Atlanta
Doug McDermott
16
Chicago
Nik Stauskas
17
*Boston
Jusuf Nurkic
18
*Phoenix
Gary Harris
19
Chicago
Shabazz Napier
20
Toronto
Jordan Clarkson
6-4
186
PG/SG
Missouri
Jr.
21
*Oklahoma Cty
Mitch McGary
6-10
22
Memphis
PJ Hairston
23
*Utah
TJ Warren
24
*Charlotte
Elfrid Payton
25
Houston
Cleanthony Early
6-7
26
Miami
KJ McDaniels
6-6
27
*Phoenix
Tyler Ennis
28
LA Clippers
Vasilje Micic
29
Oklahoma Cty
Glenn Robinson III
6-7
30
San Antonio
Clint Capela
31
Milwaukee
Bogdan Bogdanovic
6-6
205
SG
Serbia
Intl.
32
*Philadelphia
Thanasis Antetok...
6-6
205
SF
Greece
Intl.
33
*Cleveland
Jerami Grant
6-8
214
SF
Syracuse
So.
34
*Dallas
Jordan Adams
6-5
209
SG
UCLA
So.
35
Utah
DeAndre Daniels
6-8
195
SF
UConn
Jr.
36
*Milwaukee
Semaj Christon
6-3
186
PG
Xavier
So.
37
*Toronto
Jarnell Stokes
6-8
260
PF
Tennessee
Jr.
38
Detroit
Markel Brown
6-4
185
SG
Oklahoma State
Sr.
39
*Philadelphia
James McAdoo
6-9
230
PF
North Carolina
Jr.
40
*Minnesota
Jahii Carson
5-11
180
PG
Arizona St.
So.
41
Denver
Jordan McRae
6-5
180
SG
Tennessee
Sr.
42
*Houston
Patric Young
6-10
247
PF/C
Florida
Sr.
43
Atlanta
Axel Toupane
6-7
197
SG/SF
France
Intl.
44
Minnesota
Damien Inglis
6-9
240
SF/PF
France
Intl.
45
Charlotte
Alessandro Gentile
6-7
230
SG/SF
Italy
Intl.
46
Washington
Dwight Powell
6-11
235
PF
Stanford
Sr.
47
*Philadelphia
Walter Tavares
7-3
260
C
Spain
Intl.
48
*Milwaukee
Nemanja Dangubic
6-8
195
SG
Serbia
Intl.
49
Chicago
Artem Klimenko
7-0
245
C
Russia
Intl.
50
Phoenix
Ondrej Balvin
7-2
280
C
Czech Republic
Intl.
51
Dallas
Jabari Brown
6-4
215
SG
Missouri
Jr.
52
*Philadelphia
Russ Smith
6-1
160
PG/SG
Louisville
Sr.
53
*Minnesota
CJ Wilcox
6-5
201
SG
Washington
Sr.
54
*Philadelphia
CJ Fair
6-8
218
SF
Syracuse
Sr.
55
Miami
Alec Brown
7-1
231
PF/C
Wisconsin Gre...
Sr.
56
*Denver
Ojars Silins
6-9
210
SF
Latvia
Intl.
57
Indiana
Aaron Craft
6-2
192
PG
Ohio State
Sr.
58
*San Antonio
Cristiano Felicio
6-10
250
PF/C
Brazil
Intl.
59
*Toronto
Bryce Cotton
6-0
165
PG
Providence
Sr.
60
San Antonio
Johnny O'Bryant
6-8
257
PF/C
LSU
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Post by freshnthehouse on Jun 23, 2014 20:56:54 GMT -5
If we take Nurkic while Harris is on the board I will stab someboday.
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Post by eja117 on Jun 23, 2014 20:59:17 GMT -5
If we take Nurkic while Harris is on the board I will stab someboday. So in my scenario where we have Rondo and probably Bradley, and just drafted Exum you want an undersized Gary Harris over a nice sized center? Interesting. |
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Post by Roadrunner on Jun 23, 2014 21:19:42 GMT -5
I see something like Gordon, Warren.
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Post by freshnthehouse on Jun 23, 2014 21:42:46 GMT -5
If we take Nurkic while Harris is on the board I will stab someboday. So in my scenario where we have Rondo and probably Bradley, and just drafted Exum you want an undersized Gary Harris over a nice sized center? Interesting. A nice sized center that can't jump over a deck of cards. Right now I'm all about asset collection. IMO this team is bad enough that we need to just get the best talent now and worry about fit later. I see Harris as a much better prospect than Nurkic. |
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Post by freshnthehouse on Jun 23, 2014 21:45:08 GMT -5
Or am I thinking of the wrong center? I thought Nurkic was bigger dude without much rim protection potential but is a horse and the paint and has a promising post game? Possible attitude problem?
Man it grinds my gears that I can't access most sports stuff at work.
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Post by cfoo on Jun 23, 2014 22:52:05 GMT -5
No that is Nurkic I think. He is like Pekovic or a player like that. He is another big guy who can't block shots I think although there are conflicting reports on that. Some scouting reports ive read say he is an "aggressive" shotblocker and should be a good one. Whatever that means. I've also read he is a shotblocking force. Other reports I've read say he isn't. He sounds like Pekovic to me and a guy who gets caught out of position a lot but who knows. Physical player but might get caught out of position is how I read it. Also supposedly mobile but that can mean a lot of things. Pekovic is mobile but he's more of a blob to me who gets caught out of position a lot. Hard to tell. Tiago Splitter was mobile and a pretty decent shot blocker coming out but I think Kurkic is more like Pekovic.
Maybe a cross between Pekovic and Vitaly Potopenko which when combi ned might not be a bad thing if he's physical.
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Post by eja117 on Jun 24, 2014 19:50:08 GMT -5
So in my scenario where we have Rondo and probably Bradley, and just drafted Exum you want an undersized Gary Harris over a nice sized center? Interesting. A nice sized center that can't jump over a deck of cards. Right now I'm all about asset collection. IMO this team is bad enough that we need to just get the best talent now and worry about fit later. I see Harris as a much better prospect than Nurkic. Ok I did some research on this....this is Jusuf physically......fresh is right that he can't jump. His standing jump last year was like 23 inches, which is horrible. I think for comparison Noah Vonleh is like 37. However ....Kelly Olynyk was 29.5. You have keep in mind last year Jusuf was 18 and KO was like 22. Also....KO..his wingspan was 6ft 9.75 inches....Jusuf is 7 ft 2. So maybe KO can presently jump 6 inches higher, but with the reach we're down to two inches. Next....Jusuf is about 280ish. Last year KO was 235. Get him in the gym and you're talking about a pretty big and strong guy at a young age. Buttttt....he's not just big, tall, and long reach...he also has "remarkable lateral speed and quick hands"...."remarkable feel for the game and basketball instincts, with several of the offensive possessions of his team usually passing through his hands". So you're talking about a younger, bigger, faster, stronger, very smart version of KO with a lot of fire. Not as good a shooter, but a good rebounder and probably a good defender. That's really good. It's hard to get good young centers. If he's actually as good as this I doubt he gets to us. |
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