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Post by derrenattheoffice on Jun 16, 2014 11:47:52 GMT -5
Wow, the legend Tony Gwynn passed on today. I wasn't aware he was battling cancer (he was a tobacco chewer).
One of the greatest hitters I've ever seen.
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Post by freshnthehouse on Jun 18, 2014 5:22:22 GMT -5
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Post by freshnthehouse on Jun 18, 2014 5:23:43 GMT -5
reminds me a lot of when Kirby Puckett died. Both of the same era, both incredible hitters, both played their entire careers for one small market team, both were beloved the world over, and, sadly, both died far too young.
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Post by eja117 on Jun 18, 2014 7:42:32 GMT -5
I have very little idea of what he was like as a person but I don't remember him ever being arrested or anything like that. Absolutely the best hitter of his era. He was hitting .394 110 games into the 94 season when they had the strike. Stuff like that turned me off to baseball for more than a decade. A strike in the middle of one of the best seasons ever was inexcusable to me. I vowed not to watch baseball till every player from that strike was gone and I didn't return at all till the Sox were doing damage in the playoffs.
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Post by cfoo on Jun 18, 2014 19:17:44 GMT -5
As a tribute to tony gwynn im sucking on butterscotch candies right now.
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Post by cfoo on Jun 18, 2014 19:21:21 GMT -5
This is a guy who had a wife and kids and still put that stuff in his mouth. I had a gf and was about to get married and stopped doing that. went through a break up and started doing that stuff again when I was done with it. knew it was the dumbest thing ever still did it. Now im trying to quit at 40 when I was perfectly fine and had put that stuff behind me and would have been very healthy.
Tobacco is a horrible horrible thing speaking from experience. STill don't know how anyone that lucky would do that to themselves. My friend killed himself a few years back as well during all this. Had a wife. I remember telling his wife I felt like a bad friend because I wish I could have helped him and had no idea he was going through stuff like that. Some people don't know how lucky they are.
That girl that took off on my married some guy who was a smoker and a total (censored) and I was cleaning up my stuff and ended up in the abyss anyways. Now just fixing it myself. Chewed tobacco in my 20's though. Stopped for like 5 years. Started up again and now hopefully stopping for good.
Tobacco destroys lives, relationships everything in between.
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Post by derrenattheoffice on Jun 18, 2014 19:41:11 GMT -5
I remember a conversation Gwynn had with Fred McGriff long ago. Tony said Fred could hit .300 if he wanted to, and Fred said Tony could hit 30 homeruns a year if he wanted to.
In 20 years of his playing career, in over 10,000 at bats, Gwynn only hit 135 homers. But check this out -- one of the few players who walked more times than he struck out. Nearly walked double the amount of times he's struck out (434 to 790). While guys are striking out 200+ times per year, Tony never struck out more than 40 (in nearly 600 at bats).
Aside from hitting .289 his rookie year (which is darn good for a rookie), Gwynn went on a tear the rest of his career (.351 in '84, .370 in '87, .358 in '93, .394 in '94, .368 in '95, .353 in '96, .372 in '97, and at 41 years old, in his last year, he hit .324 in 71 games).
This man was born to hit. No wonder Ted Williams loved the guy.
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Post by freshnthehouse on Jun 18, 2014 20:59:29 GMT -5
Tobacco destroys lives, relationships everything in between. So glad I never got smoking/chewing. In my teenage days I would smoke the occasional cig if it was offered to me, but thankfully I never advanced to the point where I actually started by cigarettes. I was always too much of a tightwad, even back then. |
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Post by freshnthehouse on Jun 18, 2014 21:01:34 GMT -5
Speaking of chewing, a bunch of my buddies started doing it when we around 12-13. I gave it a try a couple of times, but I thought it was gross, and I would've been scared sh*tless of my parents finding out, so I never started. One of those buddies recently switch from chew to cigs because his bottom teeth were starting to get loose. That's some scary stuff when you are in your late 20s/early 30s.
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Post by eja117 on Jun 18, 2014 21:04:46 GMT -5
I almost never smoked but some of the only cigs I did have were unfiltered Lucky Strikes. DO NOT USE. It's been 20 years and I still want one if I think about it. To this day I love hanging out with smokers while they're smoking.
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Post by freshnthehouse on Jun 18, 2014 21:04:52 GMT -5
A good example of how powerful tobacco is. My mom smoked from her mid/late teens until she became pregnant with me(around 23 or so). After I was born she never smoked regularly again, but she would take a drag off one of my dad's smokes once or twice a day. Around 20 years later my dad quits smoking, so in essence my mom did as well. Even though my mom had no more than the occasional drag of a cigarette for 20 years, till this day she says she thinks about cigarettes at least once a day.
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Post by cfoo on Jun 18, 2014 21:07:37 GMT -5
I got hooked but not that bad in my 20's. I was done with it. Did something really stupid in my 30's. I don't understand how anyone can smoke or do that stuff who has a family though. I think that is worse to do it to other people like that. It is hard to quit though and it gets worse. After a bout 10 years in my 30's it was really bad because its like im screwed anyways at this point.
that girl still makes me mad too because I was doing the right things. instead she marries a guy who is smoking and doing that crap and treating her like !!!GREENIAC!!! when I was trying to do the right things. She's divorced now.
my father smoked. I wonder how much of it was already just part of me because I remember the first time I took a dip I was instantly hooked.
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Post by freshnthehouse on Jun 18, 2014 21:09:45 GMT -5
I almost never smoked but some of the only cigs I did have were unfiltered Lucky Strikes. DO NOT USE. It's been 20 years and I still want one if I think about it. To this day I love hanging out with smokers while they're smoking. Wow, that is crazy. Powerful stuff. |
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Post by cfoo on Jun 18, 2014 21:12:06 GMT -5
the biggest struggle with tobacco to me is I get bored and its there. if I wasnt screwed over like that I wouldn't do it at all. its easier to light up a cigarette and then I cant sleep. chewed in my 20's. started smoking in my 30's.
I know its going to kill me and its awful and I still do it.weird how your life can turn like that.
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Post by cfoo on Jun 18, 2014 21:13:06 GMT -5
eating butterscotch though yum lol. its awful though. killed tony gwynn. It doesn't matter who you are or were trying to be.
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