C's have been watching Vonleh since highschool

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Interview talking about the celtics. He's from the area so.

www.youtube.com/watch?v=emo8I75HnwI

Not sure it means much but at least shows there is genuine interest on the celtics part. Some of the comments underneath make me like him too. People saying he's not well spoken and a bust and stuff like that. He sounds pretty well spoken to me and down to earth. His voice does sound like Antoine walker. I like antoine so... Different person though.

Huge hands. Has genuine interest in playing for the celtics.

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I don't know if it will happen the celtics could use an athletic big man to go with Sully and KO. He might not be athletic by a lot of peoples standards but he definately has that. He also appears to be physical and can score in a lot of ways. Would give us 3 big men who can do that. Would also give us some athleticism in the middle. Lemarcus Aldridge is the type of guy we could use in ways and he kind of reminds me of that. Maybe more bosh but bigger than bosh ultimately. He has to grow and get stronger and more physical just like our other guys but appears pretty athletic already.

As far as potential he's probably the best player we can take at 6. We migth just have to wait a bit on him.

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I dont know. Rondo passing the ball to Sully, KO and Vonleh would get me excited. It feels right. Having 3 bigs who can stretch the floor, knock down shots, and do different things amongst themselves would be pretty unique. We are missing that piece in ways. KO and Sully are good. But we need that stud there. Vonleh could be that just might take a bit.

Vonleh is not bill russell don't get me wrong but the c's took a flier on a young big once and it worked out pretty well. Wouldn't surprise me in ways when all else fails if the celtics turn their attention to vonleh m uch like Red did with Russell and just go and get him.

Players are found and sometimes the hype isn't where it should be and guys fly under the radar.

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Love and Melo are very good players and you know what you get. Difficult to pass up that kind of talent. But building from within and doing that has it's own special meaning to it that has it's advantages and feels better in ways.

I don't see bust with Vonleh so much. I see a player who is overlooked in ways. Might be better out of the gate than people expect too.

Would this mean Rondo becomes a question mark and moves onto greener pastures to pair with Love somewhere else? Maybe. Maybe not.

I still think Rondo can serve a purpose here even if he is surrounded by young players and some vets. I think my response to rondo rumors and those questions from now on is just going to be eh..... Because who the (censored) cares until it actually has to happen for some unforeseen reason like rondo wants to play somewhere else and isn't going to help teh young guys etc. We don't know that or what is going on or what he thinks. you'd have to ask him and until that actually happens that stuff will drive you crazy.

There really is no purpose to moving him from a basketball perspective. He can play a role as a veteran pg on any team he wants pretty much including ours. Cousy did that with russell so it's possible.

The celtics still may decide to bring in love to pair with him. All are good options. I think we know what the options are at this point minus anything new that comes out. It's more the celtics deciding what they want to do. I sort of like this one as much as anything. Gordon is a good option too. So is Love. All good options.

Vonleh has me intrigued though right now. It really depends on his talent level and what he can ultimately become. He's potential right now and very young and has growing to do. He reminds me of Joe Johnson that way. I think he's one of the youngest players in the draft. may be a bit gunshy out of the gate mistake prone and lack polish but might not be. He's defiantely talented.

[nateval]

I agree CF Vonleh is someone that is high on my list at 6th, if its between him and Randle I'm team Vonleh all the way. Vonleh played Center at Indiana so it's not like he doesn't know how to play it. Vonleh at Center Sully at PF KO off the bench is a pretty nice rotation. Sully Vonleh and KO all have some sort of outside game it would be interesting. Sully could bang down low while Vonleh stretches the floor or vise versa. I like Smart/Exum at 6 better but I wouldn't be disappointed with Vonleh.

[DERRENMATTS]

Not a bust. Just not a really high ceiling, IMO. Could be a really solid player who gives you some scoring, some rebounding , some defense. Just not at an All-Star level.

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There are a lot of good options though. It's difficult to choose. I'm not sure i like smart or exum better than vonleh. He is a kid. It's hard to guage a guys like taht upside. I think as far as talent he may be more talented. But if his mindset and confidence isn't working with his talent he's not going to be as good. He could bust that way imo. Some players just never get over the hump from a confidence perspective and end up busting. Or they don't have the desire or whatever. I think that has as much to do with coaching as the player though. The celtics are a good organization. Someone like vonleh you have to believe you can be that good. You also have to have the desire. I don't hear that with him right now.

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I think with vonleh it depends where he goes. The celtics have the brains to get the most out of him i feel where if he comes here it would be good for him. I'm not sure they have the patience or time to develop a player like that though.

Some players bust too and it's not always their fault. They go to the wrong team get mixed up. It happens. Vonleh ultimately needs to be stronger to overcome that but it does happen with some players. I think development has gotten better though in the nba.

I think vonleh from a talent perspective has as much upside as exum or smart if not more because he's a big man. He's a risk because of his mental state and personality and skillset. He's young.

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The worst thing that could happen to Vonleh would be jim o'brien. The best thing that could happen to him would be brad stevens. I dont want to say he could be russell or duncan, but I think he's a big i'd like to see develop under those circumstances.

I don't know if it's worth taking a chance on a guy who may end up ultimately being a 3rd wheel or chris bosh or aldridge or better than that in a few years.

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I also question his basketball iq. I'm guessing the celtics have intelligence tests and brain typing. I dont know if DA still does that, but certain players just ultimately dont have the ability to pick up complex schemes and criteria or lack that basketball feel. Duncan has this. Vonleh i wonder.

I listen to marcus smart and he comes off as confident but he also is what he is in ways. He isn't tim duncan either. His upside is more fleshed out in ways and he is what he is. Mark Jackson was a confident player. He wasnt a player i overly liked either. I dont think smart is that. i think smart is more talented than mark jackson in different ways. Jackson was an excellent passer where Smart is more of a slasher and scorer who struggles with his shot at times but plays with confidence regardless.

Smart is a more scoring version of mark jackson to me. Vonleh might have issues picking up complex ideas and schemes or understanding the game at a high level. Exum has his issues as well. none of these guys are perfect.

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I think with Vonleh his intelligence isnt going to be there right away but could be. That's where talking to a guy and how he can understand things over time is hard to pinpoint. Some players come off as dumb but learn over time. That's where iq what kind of brain he has is important. It shows how much of a capacity they have ultimately. some players just maximize their potential and aren't as smart as others. Some players start off dumb and end up geniuses.

Vonleh could just be not that smart. I have no idea. I think he might be really good though. I sort of doubt ainge is going to draft him. Ainge typically drafts his types of guys and I'm not sure vonleh is that. It might be a mistake too.

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Anyways I really like him. I think he might be one of those guys who ends up being better in the nba. He's got the body for it. He looks physically like a beast to me and as he gets bigger he's going to be even better. I think his potential from a physical standpoint is pretty endless and he's underrated that way. Len Bias was a physical freak and so is vonleh I feel.

I think because he's a big I like him over Smart or Exum at this point but I haven't looked at those guys much lately. I was looking at vonleh today and was really impressed.

The fact he's in that interview and keeps saying he'll be pretty good here and there I don't know if that's a confidence thing or him being modest which could be a real positive for him longterm. He's young that way and has some room to grow mentally and physically but doesn't come off as someone who is a jerk or anything. Might have some mental confidence blocks. I've seen highlights of him where he shows flashes of really good tenacity but is inconsistent.

My bet is he is a beast though ultimately if he gets himself surrounded with the right people.

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From what I've seen of Vonleh, I like him. I wouldn't be upset to see the Celtics take him at #6. But, a lot of mocks have the Jazz taking him at #5 so he may not even be there when the Celtics pick.

[freshnthehouse]

I hope Vonleh is taken by the Jazz. Vonleh is a good prospect but I still prefer Gordon or Smart.

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Most mocks still have us taking smart or gordon so that may very well be the case. Yahoo just did a mock draft today and had Vonleh going to the magic at 4. This wouldn't surprise me either. They have exum falling because he's still basically an unknown. They have us taking Smart.

I think Smart and Gordon are due in next for us.