Aaron Gordon

[cfoo]

is the pick for me I think. I'd hold it too. I'm not sure I would sacrifice our future in any trade we make. I'm also not sure I would make trades for the sake of building solely with a young team in mind. The more and more I watch Gordon though the more I feel he can mature over time and be a talent in the league. Maybe surprise some people too with how well he can score in a variety of ways as he matures. I think he has that upside and is the best player. Smart might be more that coming in but I think overall and longterm it's Gordon. I wouldn't say this rules out going after a player like Love or means we are trading Rondo either. It's just a nice player to have and let develop going forward.

I'm for trading the pick otherwise if Gordon is off the board though. I think the Celtics should definitely look at moving the pick anyways. But if Gordon is there I'd take him. He's the closest thing to paul pierce there is this draft. Different player. Much more athletic and has great ability defensively. But I think I wouldn't mind watching a young player like Gordon grow much like Pierce was that here.

I feel like Gordon is the right pick. Which player would you take at 6?

[nateval]

A lot of the "experts" I read have Gordon as the pick too. Put aside the fact he is a true tweeter, or that he can't shoot or he has no post game what so ever I still can't get over the FT%. Gordon had a FT% last season of .422. Shaq was a career .527% FT shooter that tough to swallow considering I expect Gorodn to get most of his points around the hoop. Because of the energy and great defense Gordon plays I can see teams really hacking him Knowing he can't get it done at the line.

CF you say leave the team the way it is and draft but where does that really get you? Maybe you become a late lottery team and Rondo leaves via free agency for nothing? Start from the bottom now and TRADE RONDO while he has his most value. Keeping our players and drafting this season does nothing but push this rebuild back one season. This rebuild isn't going to happen overnight let's start it now instead of being a mediocre team.

Whoever the Celtics draft I will be rooting hard for them to become an important piece of our future!

[cfoo]

Same here. I just think Gordon is the most physically talented player at that spot. SAric is more developed right now as far as his shooting where he can come in and contribute that way.

With Saric I feel like we already have KO though. They are similar players although Saric is probably more of a guard and scorer and better at guarding people. If we are going to trade KO that's something else but KO is a legit 7 footer who plays like that.. Saric is not.

[cfoo]

As far as rebuilding I think building an all young team is not necessarily the answer. I would still lean towards building around rondo first. I am more open to trading the pick that way but it depends on how it all pans out. Marcus Smart is a nice alternative if we go that route but I would still lean towards building with Rondo first and foremost. I am not trying to trade him. Even if we take Smart although that gives us more options.

I would first look at who we are going to take at #6. What other teams want. The lakers might want a certain player etc. They are picking right behind us. My hope is we can swing something or draft someone where we can ultimately build with Rondo.

you keep asking when we should trade rondo. I don't think we should trade him nor am I trying to do that! There are scenarios I like where we could but that's not my intent at all. I don't think trading rondo is necessarily the answer. I think keeping him is moreso.

Marcus Smart can be a very good player. I like him but to be honest Rondo is better than all these guys imo. Marcus Smart being the one guy who could potentially out do him. Tyler Enis is another guy who could be a solid point if we decide to go that route. I think people overvalue young players when there is risk involved. The grass is not always greener. The lottery is overrated imo.

I'm looking at these things, but I still think the best option is to keep Rondo. Marcus Smart is a scorer and a cross between HArden and Westbrook to me or even Kemba Walker. Enis could be someone in the mold of mike conley. Nice options but is that a reason to trade rondo? I don't necessarily think so. I think teams like Charlotte, Memphis, OKC have done well with players like that but they have had their struggles getting over the top themselves. The Celtics are different to me.

I'm more for sticking with our guys. Building that way. I think Ainge feels the same way. I hope he does. I read the internet and it just confuses things though but I tend to think most people don't know where Ainge is coming from nor do they even attempt to see it. I think Ainge would look at anything and sees what a guy like Marcus Smart could do. He's a very good player. He'd even pull the trigger if it was the best option. I think he is even behind in his analysis though then even me. I read things where they are looking at stuff I was when I first looked at the draft. I think ainge is just taking things as they come in ways and not thinking that much. He's smart like that. I don't think his intent is what people think it is though. I think he means what he says.

He could get antsy and trade rondo. I went through that phase myself at points. I hope he doesn't and rush something he doesn't have to. I hope ainge realizes the internet is not reality and it's just a bunch of people who think they know when they don't. It can get to that point where this is the way it is when it's not. Ainge is around the team. The Celtics are a highly successful organization historically. I hope they stick with that and don't listen to idiots who don't know.

[cfoo]

I think ainge deals with these reporters who talk amongst themselves and read the internet nd think it's reality and what is going on within the Celtics organization when it's not. That can get to danny ainge in different ways and through the grapevine. I hope Ainge finds what is right within and what is best for them. I've always been someone who when I watch the Celtics I respect what these guys do and try to understand it. Most people aren't like that. They don't love like that. I think ainge listens to the fans because he's a good guy but ultimately he needs to find what is right within.

[kval1441]

Is this still the Aaron Gordon thread?? Holy crap!

[cfoo]

yes. I like this team.

Rondo
Bradley
Green
Sully
Asik

Ko and Gordon off the bench as developing young players. Good mix of young and older. We can still make a move for Love if need be or make moves in other ways where we would have a young nucleus to do that.

[cfoo]

Assuming we can get asik on the cheap. Otherwise give Colt Iverson a shot and potentially draft a center at 17.

[kval1441]

May 29, 2014 15:12:05 GMT -5 cfoo said:

yes. I like this team.

Rondo
Bradley
Green
Sully
Asik

Ko and Gordon off the bench as developing young players. Good mix of young and older. We can still make a move for Love if need be or make moves in other ways where we would have a young nucleus to do that.

This starting lineup won 25 games last season and looked awful... And I'm ok with that if u want to go back in the lottery. I'm prob more on your side except id like it to be all young players competing for minutes.

Maybe we can get a top 3 pick with that group this time and get okafor or another young player to put with whoever we draft and start developing this year

[derrenattheoffice]

Maybe that's the idea. Next year has good talent coming out once again.

[cfoo]

We were bad recordwise this past year. I just disagree with you is all. When we were this bad last time it didn't mean we should have traded pierce. Every situation is different but I don't think the focus was so much the record last year. Rondo still has to show he can lead a different group but he really didn't play much last year.

[kval1441]

Darren I agree with that. That's y id be tryin to get that 7 or 8 pick for rondo and drafting smart and whoever u want. Aaron Gordon, randle, vonleh, etc.. Let everyone develop together. Another season like last except I'll be cheering for wins and excited about the molding and coaching and competition for playing time. Then were in the lottery again and we have a ton of money and draft picks IF we want to make any moves.

[nateval]

I agree KVal. I've been consistent sice before the start of last season. You can't build a championship team over night patience is key. Being terrible is better then being mediocre most of the time.

[cfoo]

Then why hasn't rondo been traded? you are obviously missing something there in your logic. you say patience is key but aren't willing to go through the process. like ainge said there is no pressure that we have to do this or that with rondo. most of our guys need to develop anyways if we are going to build with our young guys. We aren't exactly Cleveland here.

[derrenattheoffice]

Honestly, Rondo hasn't been traded yet at this point because Ainge hasn't found a deal that he approves, or Rondo isn't willing to sign an extension(in the case we heard about, involving Sacramento wanting to give us Isaiah Thomas, Ben McLemore, and draft picks).