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Post by DERRENMATTS on Jan 24, 2014 12:00:14 GMT -5
Doesn't look so good for Minnesota. Kevin Love is not excited about the team's chances for an NBA championship, and like other former Wolves' players before him, he's probably looking to jump ship and take his talents elsewhere.
Where is he going to end up?
There is already talk about a Love-Carmelo pairing in LA with the Lakers. But do they have a trade package to entice Minnesota?
What about us -- does Ainge have any serious interest in Love? I haven't heard of any, but here is a chance to get a 25 year old prime time player who you can use to lure another prime time player to Boston.
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Post by freshnthehouse on Jan 24, 2014 14:14:51 GMT -5
I don't see him going anywhere until next season's trade deadline. Minny is gonna do everything the can to convince him to stay. They really have no other option.
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Post by jrmzt on Jan 24, 2014 14:15:48 GMT -5
I guess the Lakers make sense since they're clearing alot of cap space. Although given that they've just resigned Kobe, I'm not sure how they'll fit both Love and Melo under that cap. Plus you'd still need to fill out the rest of the roster.
I'd put us in contention for his services. But I do wonder how we'll be pairing Love and Sully. They're both 4s. We have a big need for a 5. If we somehow draft Embiid, you obviously start him at 5. But then how do you get both Sully and Love the right amount of play time because they're both deserving of starting.
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Post by jrmzt on Jan 24, 2014 14:16:43 GMT -5
I don't see him going anywhere until next season's trade deadline. Minny is gonna do everything the can to convince him to stay. They really have no other option. Minny can convince but it doesnt matter if he doesnt want to stay. And from the sounds of his frustrations, hes about ready to leave. |
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Post by freshnthehouse on Jan 24, 2014 17:29:36 GMT -5
I don't doubt he'll leave, but the wolves will wait until the last moment, unless some team blows them away with a deal this off-season (which LA doesn't have the pieces to do).
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Post by DERRENMATTS on Jan 24, 2014 17:53:10 GMT -5
The only way Minnesota can convince him is to win -- and not just put out a 45 game winning team, you need to win 55+. Then Kevin will listen.
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Post by Roadrunner on Jan 24, 2014 19:33:41 GMT -5
LA. I think he is originally from Oregon.
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Post by DERRENMATTS on Jan 24, 2014 21:58:14 GMT -5
Would you do this trade if you are the Wolves?
Sullinger
Green
Bradley
Future 1st round
For
Kevin Love
Image we end up with one of Embiid, Parker, and Randle (or Wiggins if you like).
Pairing Rondo with Love and having a young stud like Embiid would be quite the start to building a contender. Or switch Embiid for Parker.
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Post by cfoo on Jan 25, 2014 11:59:44 GMT -5
I also think he's going to end up in LA but that is a deal I'd seriously consider if I were the celtics. Also would be a good deal for Minny. It really depends on what Sully is going to be ultimately. I see him more as a piece to our future and he would be difficult to trade.
Pairing ROnndo with Love and getting a young stud player is a plan that could work imo.
I think giving up Bradley, Green and Sully for love is a bit much though. Keep Bradley or Sully and throw in Bass, Humphries or Wallace and i would have a hard time turning that down.
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Post by cfoo on Jan 25, 2014 12:19:47 GMT -5
I like Sully and all but even at his peak Love is a better player than he is? Sully is a plodder and a tough guy on teh boards. He is also usually efficient but hasn't proven to be that so far which is a concern. He does not have the athletic ability or skillset of kevin love as a scorer. Sully shooting 3's is not in his best interest. Love on the other hand is a really polished scorer.
If we want to open the floor for Rondo to operate Love seems perfect to me. Sully is trying to be that but isn't really that. It really depends on if we are going to truly build around Rondo though or go with a more well rounded traditional lineup. Sully would fit well with that. Sully is better in the halfcourt and bullying teams a bit. I like his work ethic and heart. He is great at getting those putbacks and doesn't give up on plays very often which is what we want. Not sure that is going to be successful with our talent level. Sully would more be a prime roleplayer on a championship team to do the dirty work inside. He is a liability in ways though especially defensively.
I'm trying not to be shortsighted or negative with Sully though. I see his potential here. I just am not sure he will fullfill it. Is Rondo going to get back to his old self? These are all questions that have yet to be answered. I think with all the draft picks we have we can afford to be patient with this group a bit. But Love is a guy I would covet.
I'm with you Derren where I look at a team of Rondo, Love and Embiied or Parker or Wiggins and that's a beast of a team. I think you build through the draft though and we can do well with what we have drafting and trading for good quality players and letting our team develop, but you have to make a couple big moves somwhere don't you? I don't know.
Me personally I'd like this trade and get our guy in the draft too on draft night and Ainge will continue trading guys at the deadline to put us in position to make a couple huge moves but we will see.
Rondo, Bradley, Love, Embiid or Parker or Wiggins. Trade for Asik if we get Parker or Wiggins. Otherwise stay away from Asik and get another SF in here or just roll with green. I'm more sick of Green then anyone right now though. I'd rather Sully as a roleplayer then Green as my starting SF right about now.
Stevens in college was known for getting the most out of balanced nonstar laden lineups. We could build that way I guess, but I'd like to see what he can do with a star lineup? Just seems like if we continue to go through the motions we are going to end up with Gary Stevens or Gary Player the golfer(isn't gary stevens like a horse jockey or something?) instead of Embiid and build with Rondo and roleplayers which I still think could work with the right pieces and coach. Kind of like San Antonio with Duncan and Parker. I like it and all and would lvoe to see it and see our players develop and reach their potential to prove me right all these years, but the NBA is different that way. I'll still root for JEff Green to turn the corner but he's just not seemingly. He could. He just doesn't. He's not that good I guess. I'm usually on one side of the fence or the other. Develop players or get Kevin Love! The in between and maneuvering to do that is the tricky part and what Ainge is doing imo.
If we trade Bradley
Rondo
Gary Harris
Love
Embiid wouldn't be so bad.
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Post by DERRENMATTS on Jan 25, 2014 13:49:01 GMT -5
Then the next move after that would be to lure Kevin Durant here!!
Rondo
Love
Durant
Embiid
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Dynasty
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Post by Roadrunner on Jan 25, 2014 20:25:33 GMT -5
Love is a very good player, however not very efficient. Shooting % for a PF/C is low; his rebounding is inflated by the team's low shooting %.
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Post by DERRENMATTS on Jan 25, 2014 21:54:10 GMT -5
Love is not your typical PF who operates near the rim. Those guys, if they are any good will have a FG% in the 55% area. Love takes his game to the perimeter, and is one of the best at shooting the three, regardless of the position.
25 and 12 would look awfully good in Boston.
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Post by Roadrunner on Jan 26, 2014 11:27:53 GMT -5
If the CBA didn't have a salary cap, in addition to a luxury tax, Kevin Love would be a fan-tastic addition to BOS. However, when a team pays max contract money to a non-max contract player, the issues of adding additional pieces (players) multiplies.
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