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Post by eja117 on Oct 7, 2005 13:48:08 GMT -5
When Doc keeps singing some player's praises or says something great about a player or you hear how improved a player is does it mean anything to you? i'd have to say it never means anything to me but Im not sure. I think pt means a lot more. And i think that just cause some guy is practicing well doesn't mean the starter isn't or that he has beat him out. But other people seem to believe the stuff coaches say and use it to make predictions. What do you guys think?
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Post by eddietours on Oct 7, 2005 14:35:51 GMT -5
yup not everything you hear is true
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Post by Celtic17 on Oct 7, 2005 15:30:24 GMT -5
I tend to use these comments buy coaches and GMs as affirmation to what I had visions of certain players.
For me, Reed and Greene are guys I want to crack the starting line up, one day. Every time I read about strides they might have made, to inch their way there, gives me satisfaction and hope.
I do agree this can be taken to far EJA, but at this point of the season it gives us something to talk about. This is a good time of year to dream and project on the future.
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Post by DERRENMATTS on Oct 7, 2005 17:20:37 GMT -5
I do enjoy reading good things that a player shown, or the progress a player has made, but I do tend to take what I read with a grain of salt. A coach will usually not bad mouth his own player and sometimes, to make the player look good (and say what is politically correct), he'll say 1 good thing about a certain player, even though this certain player may have 10 things wrong with his game.
But Rivers has said some things about certain players that I agree with because I have seen the player myself and know what that player can, or cannot do.
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Post by Celtic17 on Oct 7, 2005 21:02:35 GMT -5
Are you saying some of us take things too much to heart EJA?
It might be, management will say good things about a player, to help move them. There's the grain-of-salt part. Doc doesn't seem to be one of thoses guys, for the most part...
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Post by Roadrunner on Oct 7, 2005 22:04:22 GMT -5
Coaches play 50-50. They want hype players that are doing well, and continue to praise those players to exceed their expectations.
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Post by DERRENMATTS on Oct 8, 2005 4:30:14 GMT -5
Well, generally, coaches will not bad mouth a player to the media. You do not want to air your dirty laundry to the general public because that will cause strife between the player and coach. Doc knows this fairly well and that's why you won't read him bad mouthing any player of his. Neither will Ainge.
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Post by eja117 on Oct 8, 2005 8:10:24 GMT -5
I guess I agree, but if there is a player who sucks I don't see why they good mouth him, and sometimes a player has it coming, like when Larry Brown publicly said you can't expect a team to be good when the best player never comes to pratice. I guess it depends on what I see on the court. Like if Doc started singing Bank's praises I wouldn't believe it unless he then became the starter or at least got more pt. Or maybe he really did get better but if his pt didn't go up then someone else got better too and that player deserves some praise too
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Post by DERRENMATTS on Oct 8, 2005 19:13:04 GMT -5
Doc tends to exagerate, too. I get the feeling that he uses the media to give his players some confidence. By him singing praises about Orien or Pierce or Davis to the media, they feel that, wow, my coach really thinks I'm good.
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Post by Roadrunner on Oct 8, 2005 21:03:46 GMT -5
If a coach bad mouths a player through the media, he should be fired. And vice versa.
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Post by DERRENMATTS on Oct 8, 2005 21:12:16 GMT -5
I agree. It shouldn't be a drama/soap opera thing between coach and player for the whole world to know. Keep dirty laundry in the lockerroom. Things should stay in-house, unless its good things.
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Post by eja117 on Oct 9, 2005 12:23:27 GMT -5
I think if it's something everybody knows the coach shouldn't worry about it. Like everybody knew Iverson didn't go to practice, so why not call him out. By the player not going he is publicly calling the coach a moron, so I don't mind the coach then saying the player is lazy and not a leader. If you can't talk to your player face to face cause he's not man enough to face you then talk to him thru the media
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