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Post by DERRENMATTS on Oct 3, 2005 2:38:59 GMT -5
In an offense where the ball moves around the court a lot and guys are asked to cut, screen, pick and roll, and flare out, will Jefferson get his share of scoring opportunities in the post?
In most situation where a team has a dominant post scorer, isolations are primarily used to get him the best opportunity to put the ball through the hoop. Teams like this mostly spread out the court to give the post player options to pass out to when teams start doubling down on him.
This does not seem like the type of offense we'll be running. From all that is being written, we are striving to be more uptempo and focusing more on ball movement and having guys move to get open, or open up plays for others.
So how does Big Al fit into this?
One thing for sure--he definitely needs to work on his passing from the post. He looked terrible passing out of the post and I'm not sure if he sees the floor well at this point.
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Post by eja117 on Oct 3, 2005 6:24:56 GMT -5
There have been plenty of big men that have done very well in motion and Princeton style offenses. I think Al J may need to get a little better at passing in this situation, but he can score in an uptempo offense in many ways, such as running the court, shooting (may have to improve that too), put backs, when the defense rolls away, off drive and dishes, yadda, yadda
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Post by DERRENMATTS on Oct 3, 2005 10:20:21 GMT -5
I guess one way to look at it is Sacramento. Webber got his scoring opportunities in the motion/Princeton offense. But he was also one heck of a passer. I'd imagine Doc is going to ask Jefferson to scan the floor as he has the ball in the post and as guys are cutting through the lane and running past him, he needs to make quick decisions whether to pass or look for his own shot. Which is why I think Jefferson really needs to learn how to be better at passing and seeing the floor.
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Post by goceltics34 on Oct 3, 2005 18:39:33 GMT -5
I Think Big Al's game is more suited for the palyoffs. Dont get me wrong i think he will benefit from running the court and beating the opposing big man with his speed. I hope our guards are cognisant of the big men running the floor. I could see big AL getting at least 6-8 pts anight just by out running his man.
But in the playoffs where the game slows down and excecuting in the half court is paramount, that's where big al will shine. If he continues to develop his post moves he can be literally unstoppable. Teams will be forced to double down on him, which leaves the perimeter wide open for our shooters. Id really love to see Perk develop an offensive game around the basket.
If we can get 10pts a night out of perk were really in buisness.
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Post by Celtic17 on Oct 3, 2005 20:12:32 GMT -5
Also, in a running style of offense you don't run every time up court. There should be pleanty of low post chances for the bigs. The conditioning of the entire team is the key to an uptempo game.
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Post by meltinjohn on Oct 3, 2005 23:42:59 GMT -5
The first offense Derren mentioned reminds me of how they used the triangle on Shaq.
I don't see them going in that direction at all. The Princeton O, hmmm, it wasn't as uptempo as the one Danny and Doc want. It had a lot of passing with not much ball hogging which is what Danny and Doc want but its also slow in the halfcourt at times with fast passing motion. I think they'll have a good inbetween offense like Princeton but not quite. Maybe a free flowing one.
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Post by DERRENMATTS on Oct 4, 2005 1:15:09 GMT -5
Right GoCeltics34. Jefferson's style of play is better suited for the halfcourt game (as effective as he is running the floor for a big man, his forte' is in the painted area).
But I guess if our offense can get the ball into Jefferson near the rim where all he has to do is catch the ball and manuever a bit, he can get his points like how Amare gets his points. Phoenix doesn't use isolations much for Amare, yet he gets a ton of points in their motion offense. Its all about creatively getting the ball to Jefferson anywhere near the rim.
So, is our offense capable of doing this?
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Post by bleedgreen on Oct 4, 2005 13:27:52 GMT -5
I don't know what kind of an offense you would call it, but the Celtics Brass, want to run at opportune times, have a good post up agme with efficient ball movement. All the very good fast break teams, had good post up games i.e. '80 lakers, '80 Cavaliers. Kareem and Dougherty provided post up games for Magic and Price, respectively. So, it is good now that we have Big Al, who will provide some post up game - eventually, outstanding post game! The post up guys, tend to have a knack for the ball, thereby bing excellent rebounders who will fuel the fast breaks.
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Post by DERRENMATTS on Oct 4, 2005 19:12:52 GMT -5
Well, our team is in the early stages of being a terrific running team with the ability to be a hard halfcourt team to guard. This is getting good ;D
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Post by meltinjohn on Oct 5, 2005 20:09:35 GMT -5
A good balance has to be around. Meaning a good uptempo offense but also enough defense and post up game to win titles UNLIKE PHOENIX last year with all those offensive options or the old mavs. Also , a decent PG should be around. I like the pg system Danny is doing now but eventually, I am thinking a truly good pg needs to be around to win #17 seeing we have no Olajuwan or MJ and never will. Danny may get a pg in the future with a possible lottery pick he has with one of these teams like LA and Cleveland now. Mayo? Or maybe Mayo could have a selfish feel for the game as a scoring pg type and not so much like a Chauncey Billups.
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