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Post by DERRENMATTS on Sept 16, 2005 18:07:34 GMT -5
I was just thinking about this--would it be a good idea to allow players to come out of high school (or for international players, for them to come out as 17 year olds), but instead of immediately playing for the team that drafted them, they would need to play a minimum of 1 year of college or 1 full year in the NBDL.
Give them the option to choose if they want to enter the draft out of high school, or raise their stocks by playing in college and then declaring their names. Some guys' stock won't get any higher (such as Greg Oden), so they may decide to enter the draft, and then play a year in college or in the NBDL.
This sort of acts like a minor league system for a team.
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Post by Roadrunner on Sept 16, 2005 22:40:48 GMT -5
Unofficially, the NCAA is the minor league of basketball. Unfortunately, the NCAA is the only organization that reaps the benefits.
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Post by meltinjohn on Sept 17, 2005 2:59:39 GMT -5
Yea, it looks as if a team won't be drafting hs'ers anymore. Regardless if they go to college and come back to that team. NCAA will reap the benefits meaning that it would only be better for them on this new route. They got more stars for the final 4 competition tournaments going right to the draft after instead of a player already being picked out of hs then going right to that team instead of being drafted right out of the NCAA.
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Post by BCHISTORIAN on Sept 17, 2005 3:05:47 GMT -5
what if lebron was to finish his high school next year. that would mean he would waste his time in college (although getting education is hardly a waste, but basketball wise?)
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Post by meltinjohn on Sept 17, 2005 3:13:59 GMT -5
Maybe he wouldn't put his best effort in on the court out of restlessness to get to the league.
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Post by DERRENMATTS on Sept 17, 2005 5:55:16 GMT -5
Sorry, I must have misguided my original question. What I meant is, would it be better for teams to be able to draft a player out of high school so they can get the rights to a certain player, and then send him off to college or the NBDL?
Right now, as I understand it, a player coming out of high school cannot go directly into the NBA. But lets say that we had the first overall pick in the draft and Greg Oden just graduated from high school. Because he just graduated, he cannot enter the NBA without playing a year in college, in the NBDL, or taking a year off. Well, that takes us out of the running for Oden. Instead, they should allow players to be able to be drafted out of high school, but not participate in the NBA until a full year has passed since the time they graduated. Kind of like David Robinson's path to the NBA, where he was drafted by the Spurs, but didn't play his rookie season until 2 years after because of his service in the navy.
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Post by BCHISTORIAN on Sept 17, 2005 6:25:10 GMT -5
wasn't the case with larry bird similar? for some reason the league changed that rule.
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Post by DERRENMATTS on Sept 17, 2005 13:08:28 GMT -5
Well, they outta change it back. This way, a team can still grab the highly touted high school player they wanted, and the league wins because the high schooler will not be able to play in the NBA immediately.
I guess the league is also trying to curb all these scouts going to high school games. In a way, I understand why they're thinking this way. High schools basketball games shouldn't be a circus for all these scouts and GM's from all these NBA teams to hoard to. Most gyms are small enough already. It makes the high school thing like a highly competitive business. High school kids who just want to go and cheer for their team won't be able to because the gym is all packed with all these scouts and GM's. And then if you're a big shot, you'll have ESPN and their crew bringing in their all their equipment to televise the game, and then you have all these shoe companies trying to fight for you to sign with them, etc. It chockes the fun out of being a high schooler trying to go to a high school game on a friday night to root for your team when all the front row seats and the middle sections are all taken up by business men, whcih leaves you to cheer with your pom pom at the very top of the hot and stinky gym.
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Post by eja117 on Sept 17, 2005 13:47:33 GMT -5
I think that is one of the best compromises I ever heard. I always thought it was illeagal to keep an 18 year from pursuing a living, but the Constitution doesn't say anything about minor leagues or salary negotiation. I'm exhalting for that
Although I disagree with some of that last part Derren. I think Lebron was the best thing in the world for his high school. Sort of
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Post by meltinjohn on Sept 17, 2005 19:17:54 GMT -5
This rule should come back indeed. SPeaking of David Robinson, imagine if that happened to Oden who is supposed to be a David Robinson clone nearly. Got picked and then went to college and then came out 2 yrs later to the league. They won't change this rule back unfortunately. I remember the same rule was for Sabonis. Portland had the rights to him 9 yrs later after they picked him in 86. Stuff like this should come back.
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Post by DERRENMATTS on Sept 17, 2005 23:45:03 GMT -5
No, I agree about Lebron also. I actually have no objection to high schoolers coming into the NBA after they've graduated. Hey, graduates are allowed to fight for their country, even unto death, right after high school, so why shouldn't they be allowed to go to the NBA? Its their choice.
Maybe its a way for the college programs to recover from the loss of losing out on so many prospects (such as KG, Kobe, McGrady, Lebron, Amare, Jefferson, and Gerald Green ;D ). When its all said and done, it comes down to business and what's the most lucrative solution.
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Post by Roadrunner on Sept 18, 2005 19:35:12 GMT -5
It allows college coaches like Pitino, and Calipari to recruit players (and actually have them play for them)that are NBA ready. Memphis especially, and Lousiville have been going for the homerun in recruiting in recent years. Unfortunately, when you are Louisville and you are eyeing Telfair, other players like Rajon Rondo (PG - Kentucky) get lost in the shuffle.
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