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Post by DERRENMATTS on Jun 30, 2005 1:13:24 GMT -5
With so much young guys on the team, we need more veterans (who can still play) to come here and show these young players how to be professional on and off the court, show them how to talk in interviews, how to keep out of trouble, how to manage their money wisely, and how to work hard in practice and on their own.
We just don't have enough of these types of veterans to show the way. Blount may be the type to work his butt off in the offseason, but he's not the type who wants to take the young Perkins and Jefferson under his wing and show them how he trains.
Pierce and Ricky are the veteran wing players, and I'm not sure they are the right role models for Tony Allen and Gerald Green.
As of right now, there's no veteran PG to show Delonte, Marcus, and Orien the ropes.
Getting a good character veteran who can still play the game of basketball and show the youngsters how to be professional is of high priority. It will weigh significantly in how professional our youngsters turn out 5 years from now.
Getting a guy like PJ Brown is a good place to start. He can be a terrific example for Perkins and Jefferson to model their professionalism after.
Maybe Jasikevicius for our PG's?
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Post by mev17 on Jun 30, 2005 2:28:07 GMT -5
What I like about PJ Brown is that he only has two years left on his contract, which means it conveniently expires when its time to resign Perkins (after the fourth, team-option year on his contract, which I am sure Ainge will excercise) and pick up the option on Jefferson's contract. He can be a solid contributor and mentor, but will be ready to move on when Jefferson and Perkins are ready to take over in two years.
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Post by BCHISTORIAN on Jun 30, 2005 2:52:40 GMT -5
i've liked pj brown for several years now, so getting him would be good, good, good...
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Post by DERRENMATTS on Jun 30, 2005 4:03:17 GMT -5
The trick is to get Raef off our roster. He's been a professional all throughout his 2 years in Boston, but his game as a 3 point shooting PF/C is not going to help Jefferson and Perkins learn the ropes as inside players. Same goes for Blount. Raef's departure would be a significant improvement on our payroll, though.
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Post by BCHISTORIAN on Jun 30, 2005 4:54:07 GMT -5
i would be glad if we could trade blount for a start. at least raef ha bb iq
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Post by VI_CelticsFan on Jun 30, 2005 5:30:49 GMT -5
A PJ Brown addition would be excelent. Also would be an addition of Jasikevicius. I'm not sure what kind of vet 2 guard we could bring in to help G-Money and TA. Have any ideas anyone?
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Post by DERRENMATTS on Jun 30, 2005 10:58:47 GMT -5
If Michael Finley is cut from Dallas, he could be an option, although Phoenix is said to be wanting to bring him back.
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Post by eja117 on Jun 30, 2005 12:04:15 GMT -5
I think it's a crowded roster to bring in vets that don't break the cap. if you bring them in someone is going down to he NBDL. Also i can see the chemistry between vets brought in to lead and PP, Blount, Raef, and Ricky as being weird, so I'd assume DA would make a trade first. But I don't think teams would want these guys much outside of maybe Cuban, Portland, and the Knicks, and then we gotta take something back. But i think DA is a pretty good trader. Getting rid of Walker and bringing him back were very good trades, even though what we got back wasn't great.
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Post by SuperToine on Jun 30, 2005 12:30:16 GMT -5
We just don't have enough of these types of veterans to show the way. Blonut may be the type to work his butt off in the offseason, but he's not the type who wants to take the young Perkins and Jefferson under his wing and show them how he trains. And Walker? What about him? What about Jefferson asking Walker to "take him under his wing"? |
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Post by eja117 on Jun 30, 2005 12:35:17 GMT -5
"And Walker? What about him? What about Jefferson asking Walker to "take him under his wing"? "
Some things sound nice or like a good idea and really aren't. Al J can always get AW's digits. Actually AW might want to ask Al J to take him under his wing.
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Post by meltinjohn on Jun 30, 2005 18:43:58 GMT -5
One good point that was made was that this team needs veterans that the mold of our young guys are. PJ Brown to Perkins and AL J. Walker and Raef also are not good for our growing PF to take examples from. Walker due to his approach and hard headed no lesser role is good enough for me attitude and his constant 3 ball jacking and Raef (Despite that he behaves well) because hes also another outside shooter 90% of the time.
Look at the bulls and the vets they had. Antonio Davis and Othella Harrington to Tyson Chandler and Curry. Same types of players only older and not as talented but just enough experience in the league to mentor Curry and Chandler. Their games were alike in their day to how Tyson and Eddy are coming along. Thats what to look at also. Perkins won't become an outside shooter even though Raef shoots them but its still imperitive that a veteran center comes in and plays the way they should be also.
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Post by esco33 on Jul 1, 2005 14:25:28 GMT -5
I see your point meltin', but I don't think it is necessary to have vets that play exactly the way you want the kids to play someday. It is a good idea, but every player is different. There are pro and cons with every player. I think the point is taking the best parts of the vets, and teaching the kids those things. (Fundamentals, just how to play the game the right way) I think Ainge wants "solid citizens" as well. So we have to take that into account also. But the names I have been hearing such as PJ Brown, Antonio Davis for bigs sound all right. Even Clifford Robinson would be a nice pickup. It seems like that guy has been in the league for awhile. Again, he doesn't exactly live in the paint, but he can offer some good leadership skills.
What does everyone think about Brian Grant? Obviously, he's slowed a bit and has had his share of injuries, but I think he would offer great veteran leadership in the frontcourt. He lives in the post, playing D and rebounding, and he is one of the better team players in the league.
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Post by esco33 on Jul 1, 2005 14:28:07 GMT -5
correction - I meant to say it seems like Cliff Robinson has been in the league forever.
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Post by DERRENMATTS on Jul 1, 2005 16:30:06 GMT -5
Draft Guru, I think Grant is past his prime, but can still be an influence on the young players. He still goes out and plays hard and can rebound by using his body. Again, he's not my ideal veteran big man to bring in, but he's not the worse guy out there we can sign.
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Post by freshnthehouse on Jul 1, 2005 21:02:00 GMT -5
Actually AW might want to ask Al J to take him under his wing. No doubt. Id say AlJeff has a lot better grasp on being a low-post player than Antione. Another fun fact. Look at Antione Rebounding career #s. If we hadn't traded him, he'd be averaging 5 rpg by now. On of his last years here he had like 88 off rebounds. WTF! ANd he played 40+ minutes a game that year! |
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