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Post by eja117 on Aug 15, 2009 10:10:05 GMT -5
www.sportingnews.com/college-basketball/article/2009-07-29/sporting-news-50-greatest-coaches-all-timeSporting News' 50 greatest coaches of all time Who made the list? SN's panel of 118 Magazine: Subscribe to Sporting News More rankings: Top 50 current MLB players Among those joining Goodrich and Starr as guest authors: Hall of Famers Dwight Stephenson, Paul Warfield, Tommy Heinsohn, Luc Robitaille, Mike McCormack, Gale Sayers, Lynn Swann, Isiah Thomas and Roger Staubach. SN's greatest coaches 1. John Wooden, college basketball No. 2 Vince Lombardi2. Vince Lombardi, NFL 3. Bear Bryant, college football 4. Phil Jackson, NBA 5. Don Shula, NFL 6. Red Auerbach, NBA 7. Scotty Bowman, NHL 8. Dean Smith, college basketball 9. Casey Stengel, MLB 10. Knute Rockne, college football 11. Pat Summitt, women's college basketball No. 13 Joe Paterno12. Paul Brown, NFL 13. Joe Paterno, college football 14. George Halas, NFL 15. Chuck Noll, NFL 16. Bob Knight, college basketball 17. Joe Gibbs, NFL 18. Tom Landry, NFL 19. Mike Krzyzewski, college basketball 20. Bill Belichick, NFL 21. Adolph Rupp, college basketball No. 19 Mike Krzyzewski22. Joe McCarthy, MLB 23. Eddie Robinson, college football 24. Bobby Bowden, college football 25. John McGraw, MLB 26. Bill Walsh, NFL 27. Woody Hayes, college football 28. Connie Mack, MLB 29. Bud Wilkinson, college football 30. Pat Riley, NBA 31. Pete Newell, college basketball No. 30 Pat Riley32. Joe Torre, MLB 33. Bill Parcells, NFL 34. Tom Osborne, college football 35. Walter Alston, MLB 36. Bo Schembechler, college football 37. Toe Blake, NHL 38. Sparky Anderson, MLB 39. Al Arbour, NHL 40. Amos Alonzo Stagg, college football 41. Tony La Russa, MLB No. 41 Tony La Russa42. Geno Auriemma, women's college basketball 43. !!!GREENIAC!!! Irvin, NHL 44. Ara Parseghian, college football 45. Chuck Daly, NBA 46. Bobby Cox, MLB 47. Hank Iba, college basketball 48. Tommy Lasorda, MLB 49. Gregg Popovich, NBA 50. Herb Brooks, NHL
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Post by eja117 on Aug 15, 2009 10:10:22 GMT -5
Phil Jackson over Red? Whateva
Pat Summit about 30 spots ahead of Geno? idk
Joe Gibbs (heck. anyone) ahead of Belichek?
Bill Parcells hasn't taken a team to the 2nd round of the playoffs in any capacity in 15 years
Joe Torre? Yeah, he really worked miracles with that $200 million payroll that was about $80 million more than the next closest team, and like $110 million more than the teams that beat him
Greg Popovich should probably be #1 on luckiest coaches. I think without Duncan we would never have known who he was.
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Post by eja117 on Aug 15, 2009 10:53:50 GMT -5
This is just me, but even though it says "coaches" I think you should be given more credit or less if you were also GM, depending on success. Like Red goes higher and Pitino goes lower. DA it doesn't affect cause he didn't do both, but Parcells it does
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Post by DERRENMATTS on Aug 15, 2009 17:51:01 GMT -5
They don't take into account that Red had to do it all himself--coach (I think back in those days, Red had to take care of both the offensive and defensive assignments), and all the managerial duties. Nowadays, you have a 5 man coaching staff it seems.
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Post by FLCeltsFan on Aug 15, 2009 22:15:56 GMT -5
They don't take into account that Red had to do it all himself--coach (I think back in those days, Red had to take care of both the offensive and defensive assignments), and all the managerial duties. Nowadays, you have a 5 man coaching staff it seems. You are right Derren. Red did have to do it all. he was the coach (no assistants back then) and was the GM, and not only that, but he was the driver, equipment manager, and had to make all the arrangements for travel, accomodations, etc. He negotiated with the players for their salaries and was basically in charge of everything on the team. He picked his players and won with them. Phil Jackson stepped into ready made teams, all with superstars in place and won with them. Jackson has assistants for every facet of the game and all he has to do is coach. No way should he be above Red. |
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Post by cfoo on Aug 16, 2009 5:38:48 GMT -5
I will be on this list someday. Serious though i'm going to start coaching i think. Never done it. I'm a bit scared but we will see.
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Post by freshnthehouse on Aug 16, 2009 7:49:41 GMT -5
I will be on this list someday. Serious though i'm going to start coaching i think. Never done it. I'm a bit scared but we will see. I've got a lot of friends that coach. Everything from kid's hockey to college girl's basketball and boy's baseball. Pretty enjoyable line of work, but if you work with kids you gotta deal with idiot parents, and if you are able to get to the college level, you've got to work a lot of terrible hours (which, IMO, is only bad if you have a family. Personally, I'd love a job that allows me to travel. I could live out of hotels for the rest of my life). |
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Post by Roadrunner on Aug 16, 2009 8:04:29 GMT -5
I will be on this list someday. Serious though i'm going to start coaching i think. Never done it. I'm a bit scared but we will see. I've got a lot of friends that coach. Everything from kid's hockey to college girl's basketball and boy's baseball. Pretty enjoyable line of work, but if you work with kids you gotta deal with idiot parents, and if you are able to get to the college level, you've got to work a lot of terrible hours (which, IMO, is only bad if you have a family. Personally, I'd love a job that allows me to travel. I could live out of hotels for the rest of my life). I have a friend that is the head men's & women's cross-country, and track & field coach @ a D III college in NY. More or less, he parlayed one coaching job into another to move up. The work itself was a +, w/ long hours & average to below average pay were a -. |
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Post by cfoo on Aug 16, 2009 8:09:20 GMT -5
well i dont know if im going to do it as a fulltime gig. Probably just start off with kids and work my regular job. I just am thinking i want to try it. We will see where it takes me, but im really not going to jump in over my head. I've never done it and its going to take some time.
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Post by cfoo on Aug 16, 2009 8:12:32 GMT -5
i work in computers which is good money but its not really my passion. I like certain things about it dont get me wrong. But i feel like im 36 now and dont want to give up on my dreams or something.
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Post by cfoo on Aug 16, 2009 8:14:08 GMT -5
The thing with coaching is you can do it at like 80 man and be one of those old guy coaches so i still have time to learn and ill probably just do it as a side gig or something. Probably help out as an assistant or something. The way i see is i need to figure outu a way to add a little extra money and this might be a godo way of doing that. I might hav eto volunteer at first but maybe they will pay me a little something.
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Post by cfoo on Aug 16, 2009 8:19:44 GMT -5
I agree with what fresh said its going to be interesting dealing with douchebag parents. I dont like a lot of people too much. It will be interesting to say the least.
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Post by Roadrunner on Aug 16, 2009 18:01:56 GMT -5
CF,
I have always had this pipe dream that I would start coaching (cross-country, and track & field/distance) when I retired from employment. Most likely the high school system. Right now, my hours conflict w/ school, and I still compete, leaving no opportunity, unless I changed professions (like to teaching).
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Post by DERRENMATTS on Aug 16, 2009 20:37:46 GMT -5
I just finished coaching for the first time. I coached my niece's minors softball team, ages 5-9. Its time consuming, but fun at the same time.
This league is not competitive at all. There's a running joke around town that if you want your kids to have a fun time playing softball, you send them to this league. But if you are serious about getting your kid into softball, you take them to other leagues.
But nonetheless, I had a whole lot of fun. I'm more interested in teaching the fundamentals and showing the girls that softball can be fun, so it doesn't bother me that I had a team full of first time players.
I was blessed to have a team that didn't have an ego problem among the young girls. Last year I helped coach another team, and there were a few ego problems, and they tend to cause problems in practices.
This year, all the girl were friendly to one another.
I am already looking forward to next year.
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