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Post by meltinjohn on Jun 28, 2005 20:26:04 GMT -5
Gerald Green? Did this happen? If so, Pierce is definitely gonna be shopped now. GO DANNY! WAY TO GO WITH THIS FUTURE! Big AL and G2 is something to really look forward to. Just think of a McGrady like player who can learn in a team system. This will make him all the better. I see him more like our old #35 who passed away. This is just so nice.
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Post by Roadrunner on Jun 29, 2005 22:03:37 GMT -5
I think G2 is going to give Danny some leverage in contract talks w/ P2. Also, he will have multiple options as well now. Hopefully, Doc will be able to develop G2. Though, I have faith in Doc as a coach, as well as a mentor.
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Post by DERRENMATTS on Jun 30, 2005 0:06:53 GMT -5
Gerald Green plays the uptempo game the way we hope Pierce will. Because Green is a quick and athletic player, running the floor and attacking the rim makes perfect sense for him. Which is why I'm especially happy that we grabbed him. With our uptempo offense, he's going to fit in very well. Plus, he can shoot the ball--another aspect of the game Ainge wants the team to improve upon.
Pierce plays a slower game than Green. I also think that Green can be an exceptional halfcourt player too. He's the type of athlete who can beat his man off the dribble and give good pump fakes.
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Post by meltinjohn on Jul 3, 2005 0:50:10 GMT -5
Right this is the thing I don't like about Pierce. hes slowER plus he goes off on tangents.
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Post by Roadrunner on Jul 3, 2005 8:56:25 GMT -5
I am not sure P2 really fits the Danny Ainge system here. P2 does slow the tempo of the game down, and tries to go one on one often. If you notice, Ainge has drafted players to fit a system he is designing, which involves running, and ball movement. I think if P2 is traded, it is less to do w/ his contract, and more to do w/ it deviating from this system Danny is designing.
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Post by DERRENMATTS on Jul 3, 2005 17:23:22 GMT -5
Pierce needs to mold his game better. I give him credit--he has made adjustments to his game to be a better fit in the system (though he made it obvious that he wasn't happy about it). But there are still some parts he could adjust. Take for instance how he handles fast break opportunities when he comes up with the defensive rebound. Rather than quickly looking for the PG (who, ideally, should be the one orchestrating the plays), he's prone to taking the ball himself. He does push the ball well, but he waits too long to pass the ball, and by the time he's on our side of the court, the defense is just about in place.
The thing about fast breaks is you have to move the ball quickly up the court and get it to the lead man. On 3 on 2 situations, if you have the ball and you are trailing the pack, get the ball up by passing it ahead. Even if it means passing it to a teammate who isn't in the lead. Just getting it up the court will enable higher scoring opportunities because the defense isn't set yet.
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Post by goceltics34 on Jul 5, 2005 19:36:13 GMT -5
This was definitely a steal. Anytime you get a player projected in the top 10, and get him at 18 you've got tremendous value. This was a no brainer to me, you pick the best player on the board regardless of position.
As far a pierce goes, i love the guy i think he's a top 15 player. I 'm not going to sit hear and bash the guy because he's delivered so many times for us in the past. Remember this guys pierce is a one one 1 player, he's at his best when he can break his man down either creating for himself or others.
Remember before game 4 of the indiana series. Pierce said the ball should be in his hands more often, we all saw the results. If we trade pierce where is the scoring coming from? Who's the go to guy? I think everyone is saying trade pierce, without thinking of the consequences. Those would be an instant lottery team.
Celtics fans lets think logically here, we cant afford to give away our best player, and dont let what you hear about pierce's attitude fool you. 30 teams would be lined up to get their hands on paul. I say we unite and support the guy who's given us celtic fans great thrills, and hope for the future.
I for one will never be an advocate of trading paul, i want him in a celtic uniform for life. You build around your best player not get rid of him. Unless we get blockbuster compensation pierce should remain in a celtic uniform.
go celtics!!!!!!!
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Post by DERRENMATTS on Jul 6, 2005 0:48:21 GMT -5
GC34, your enthusiasm is wonderful. You are a keeper ;D
As for Pierce, you are right. Right now would not be the ideal time to trade him if we want to reach the playoffs again and go deeper than the first round. He's the best player we've got and he's a top 15 player. Trade him and we will not be as good this year.
But in a few years, this team will belong to Jefferson and Green.
As for Green--he was much regarded as the best athlete in this draft. And many GM's have said that his shooting is very good. What an incredibly lucky draft we had again. There's just no way to script this.
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Post by freshnthehouse on Jul 6, 2005 1:26:00 GMT -5
'As for Pierce, you are right. Right now would not be the ideal time to trade him if we want to reach the playoffs again and go deeper than the first round. He's the best player we've got and he's a top 15 player. Trade him and we will not be as good this year."
This is where Celtics fans like myself come in. I could care less if we make the play-offs again, just because it'll be another one-and-done and scheduling tee times in late May, just like this year. I'm still all aboard with any PP trade that can give us a couple good building blocks. THey gotta be good building blocks, mind you, because you can't trade a PP quality player and not get some sweet goodies in return.
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Post by DERRENMATTS on Jul 6, 2005 12:13:12 GMT -5
If Pierce is traded, Ainge needs to make sure that he brings in a solid veteran wing player to replace him (doesn't have to be directly through the trade). I don't want Ricky Davis and his crazy antics to be the veteran and professional presence for young Allen and Green. We'll need a vet who will teach them the right way to do things and the right mindset to be a quality professional in the NBA.
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Post by Roadrunner on Jul 6, 2005 20:56:28 GMT -5
If we trade P2, we better attain a starting piece to a championship, example - a PG or C, and get a role player off the bench. Though, I would like him to retire as a Celtic.
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Post by DERRENMATTS on Jul 6, 2005 22:57:00 GMT -5
Yes, I think getting ourselves a young studly PG or C is the next piece to obtain to solidify our chances of building a dynasty.
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Post by eja117 on Jul 11, 2005 13:10:18 GMT -5
PP does for our team what Kobe does for LA, but he does it worse (which is a good thing). If that sounds odd Derren knows what I mean.
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Post by DERRENMATTS on Jul 11, 2005 22:16:54 GMT -5
Yeah, and the tree with the white bark is the same as the mountain with a running waterfall. If that sounds odd, you can ask Eja what that means ;D
Just kidding, Eja. I know what you mean. I think Kobe is one of the best individual scorers the league has ever had. Pierce is not as good, but can carry a team when he's hot. But not as often, or for as long, as Kobe can.
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Post by Roadrunner on Jul 11, 2005 22:33:18 GMT -5
Unfortunately, Kobe is the little red corvette...according to Aristotle. ;D
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