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Post by Roadrunner on Jun 17, 2005 23:25:27 GMT -5
Songalia, though he went to college for 4 years, was still a project. Unfortunately he was one of the better, if not best picks by Wallace. Though, Danny took a flame thrower to that pick. Though, Songalia looks "good" in a system that fits his style of play. Kind of like the article that I read today, that Red A. said Bowen looks great because San Antonio has Duncan.
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Post by meltinjohn on Jun 17, 2005 23:31:58 GMT -5
Right. Songalia coulda been way more useless than Hunter was here. Hunter actually had some good games. Hard to say if Songalia would in green. Bowen now, he was a nothing before going to SA. Ginobili I firmly believe wouldn't be that good had the spurs not picked him either. He'd be getting 15mpg probably. Duncan does those guys wonders.
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Post by eja117 on Jun 18, 2005 18:00:37 GMT -5
I think if Songalia can do well in the West he could do better in the East. Well until lately anyway. And it's not Songalia's fault that the Kings pass and hit the open man. I don't know if you can call that a system. And I don't see Duncan holding down Rip hamilton and company. I see Bowen doing that. Maybe Popovich is a good coach.
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Post by DERRENMATTS on Jun 18, 2005 18:22:30 GMT -5
Popovic is a good coach because he can get the players on the team to focus as one unit. Just like Larry Brown. The players respect these coaches and do what they're told to do with little, to no, complaints. We don't have that on our team. And until we do, our team will be somewhat dysfunctional. It all starts with the players intent on giving their trust to the coach.
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Post by meltinjohn on Jun 18, 2005 22:15:34 GMT -5
Jefferson and West won't be much of a problem complaining I don't think. Lets hope Danny brings in a euro that they can mold however they want like Rudy F. The young guys seem to listen. The veterans are bad at it. But once again, Doc is like a rookie coach. Lets hope he becomes our next KC Jones. The veteran role players Boston acquires in place of Walker and Pierce have to be willing to listen. Malik Rose is capable of it. PJ Brown too.
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Post by DERRENMATTS on Jun 18, 2005 22:36:09 GMT -5
Yeah, the young players are the obedient type because basically, they have no leverage. If they don't listen, they won't get playing time. The veterans feel that they don't have to obey commands if they don't want to because they can force manangment to trade them if they don't like it.
That's why I'm interested in starting fresh. Make this a new era of Celtics basketball.
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Post by Celtic17 on Jun 18, 2005 22:42:24 GMT -5
Maybe we need Walker taking the kids to Vegas again. Maybe he needs to do what he does in another city.
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Post by DERRENMATTS on Jun 18, 2005 22:49:09 GMT -5
In some ways, I think Walker does this kind of thing to get players on his side. Maybe its for comeraderie, maybe its for better chemistry. But he could also be manipulating them to get him on his side.
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Post by meltinjohn on Jun 18, 2005 22:53:16 GMT -5
Derren, Walker is a controller. Look at his birthdate. My dads is around the same as his and he does the same thing. He tries to control things. So does my uncle who was born in august. My uncle has burned many bridges places. Anyways Walker I think is trying to get players on his side. Although meaning well perhaps, he needs to get his 30mpg and needs his 21-25 shots a game. That is not needed.
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Post by DERRENMATTS on Jun 18, 2005 23:58:42 GMT -5
Interesting, Meltin. So people's personalities are dependant on their birthdays? I know in Japan, your blood type is what everyone is interested in. Something like certain blood types get along with certain blood types, so its useful in dating cirlces.
I'm born in January. What are the personality characteristics of a January person?
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Post by meltinjohn on Jun 19, 2005 1:41:37 GMT -5
Your either a capricorn or aquarius.
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Post by DERRENMATTS on Jun 19, 2005 2:48:53 GMT -5
Are you asking me?
I'm an aquarius.
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Post by meltinjohn on Jun 20, 2005 1:37:08 GMT -5
Yea it was one of those anyways. No I wasn't asking you before.
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