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Post by DERRENMATTS on May 12, 2005 2:37:03 GMT -5
Ainge has already commented on numerous occassions in the past few days that he is looking to add players with basketball IQ. I'd think that he's going to apply this strategy when it comes to drafting players. Here's a look at the players in this draft, who I think have good basketball IQ.
Andrew Bogut--without a doubt, he's a smart basketball player with a solid basketball mind.
Chris Paul--a floor general who you can trust will make a lot of good judgements with the ball in his hands.
Raymond Felton--Chris Paul may have the upper hand when it comes to basketball IQ, IMO. But I'd still be ecstatic to grab Felton because of his passing ability.
Fransisco Garcia--anyone who can play the Point Forward spot well must have a pretty good basketball IQ. I know Garcia does.
Sean May--I'm not totally sure he has a lot of basketball smarts, but he does show the aptitude to be able to think on his feet, so I'll give him the benefit of the doubt.
Nate Robinson--this guy has been amazing the basketball world with his court savvy and exciting brand of basketball as a 5'8" playermaker. If he didn't have basketball IQ, he would not be a projected to be picked in the draft (most have him going in the early second, but he'd be in the lottery if he was 6'2").
Jawad Williams--he's been the unnoticed star for the Tar Heels the past 2 years. Without him doing all the small things for them, they would not be as good.
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Post by VI_CelticsFan on May 14, 2005 16:04:22 GMT -5
Hey dmatts. I'd love to get either Chris Paul or Ray Felton, but they may be out of reach. Could DA trade AW and our 1st rounder for the rights to Chris Paul? That would be nice.
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Post by DERRENMATTS on May 14, 2005 19:14:35 GMT -5
I doubt Ainge can pry a first round pick high enough to nab Chris Paul by dangling Antoine Walker. He just doesn't command that much buzz in the league anymore.
Raymond Felton, on the other hand, is definitely a guy we can try to hope and pray for. We may have to get into the top 10 or 11 to get him. Deron Williams is projected to go much higher than Felton, which I think is a mistake. Deron is a nice PG, but I think he's overrated.
If I had to pick between Paul and Felton, I'm going to go with Felton. I just feel that he'll be a better fit for our team. If Felton can develop a consistent jumper in the NBA, he's going to be an exceptional PG.
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Post by VI_CelticsFan on May 15, 2005 16:29:57 GMT -5
I agree on Felton. He is a better fit and we probably have a better chance on trading up for him. Hey derren I have a question, do you think Charlie Villenueva has bball IQ? I'd love to nab him if we can.
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Post by DERRENMATTS on May 16, 2005 0:11:15 GMT -5
Question (E-Mac): I agree on Felton. He is a better fit and we probably have a better chance on trading up for him. Hey derren I have a question, do you think Charlie Villenueva has bball IQ? I'd love to nab him if we can.
Yes, Villanueva does have some basketball IQ. But to what extent is still a question. He's an instictual player and he does things on instincts. But that's when it comes to rebounding and scoring down low. I have yet to see much of his perimeter passing IQ.
Villanueva should stay at UCONN for another year, but he's opting to come out this year. He's still underdeveloped physically and he's only starting to understand his game. If he's coming out this year, it gives a team a chance to pick him up later in the first round this year, as opposed to him going much higher next year or the following year.
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Post by Roadrunner on May 16, 2005 20:35:24 GMT -5
I agree w/ regards to Charlie V. As a true freshmen, Charlie looked lost last year. As a soph, his game started to take over. If you watched any of the UCONN games, UCONN had no set plays for him, and all his points/rebounds were on broken-down plays, hustle plays, put-backs, etc. Also, his defense improved this year.
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Post by DERRENMATTS on May 17, 2005 10:38:57 GMT -5
I agree w/ regards to Charlie V. As a true freshmen, Charlie looked lost last year. As a soph, his game started to take over. If you watched any of the UCONN games, UCONN had no set plays for him, and all his points/rebounds were on broken-down plays, hustle plays, put-backs, etc. Also, his defense improved this year. Which is why I think Villanueva still has a lot of upside to his game. He was too perimeter oriented as a freshman, and he indeed looked lost. But as he starting playing more in the paint, and taking his offense into the paint (not sure if this was intentionally asked by Calhoun), his game began to flourish. He has a good sense of what to do with the ball in the paint. Next step for him is to get a lot stronger and more precise with his moves in the paint, and learn how to be a more complete player. Its best that he stays put for at least another year. |
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Post by Roadrunner on May 17, 2005 21:51:54 GMT -5
Charlie V definitely needs one more year in college, which would cement him into a top7 selection in 2006. Though, family issues were the main reason he opted early. I am willing to bet Calhoun laid down the law w/ Charlie last season, and said "we need you in the post." He definitely can shoot the 3 (from what I read, he played alot on the perimeter before his growth spurt), but its not his bread & butter, which is crashing the glass.
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Post by Roadrunner on May 17, 2005 21:53:03 GMT -5
Base on IQ, I am thinking we are leaning towards Joey Graham, or a foreign player.
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Post by DERRENMATTS on May 18, 2005 4:28:59 GMT -5
Base on IQ, I am thinking we are leaning towards Joey Graham, or a foreign player. Hmmmm.... I seem to have a different assesment when it comes to Joey Graham and his Bball IQ. IMO, he's not really basketball smart. He's a heck of an athlete and is aggressive, and that's most likely why he's been a successful player. Also, his lack of rebounding as a PF/SF confuses me. With all the physical talents he has (quickness, agility, jumping ability, strength), its somewhat concerning that he's not able to be a stronger rebounder. This said, I would not mind spending a late first round pick on him (for sure a second round pick if he's still there) on him if all the good prospects are already gone. I see him being a very useful bench player. He reminds me of a guard-like Kenyon Martin. |
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Post by meltinjohn on May 18, 2005 6:29:21 GMT -5
The celtics were listed in the mock draft to take Graham.
Then again, I checked today and last yrs mock draft with their 3 picks had them taking Swift at 15th, Dorrell Wright and Peter Ramos at 24 and 25. I am sure glad those didn't take place.
I got a suggestion to y'all. Screw chances of getting Felton, Deron and Paul. Just throw them out of your heads. Keep the 18th pick then focus on Nate Robinson in round 2. Just the fact that if he was 6'2, he would be a 20 and up pick. Earl Boykins is 5'5, hes making it. Webb also, he was 5'7. The celtics I think need one really small man and he should be the pg pick in the 2nd round.
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Post by BCHISTORIAN on May 18, 2005 6:40:26 GMT -5
two players: danny granger or jarret jack
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Post by DERRENMATTS on May 18, 2005 10:30:29 GMT -5
The only thing is, Nate Robinson is probably not going to last until the late second round. We have picks #50 and 53. I see him going early second with an outside shot at going in the late first.
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Post by meltinjohn on May 19, 2005 23:49:27 GMT -5
Not even at 40 huh? Well if that be the case, Bass could be our pick at 40. Maybe Vincent Grier in the 50s area.
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