Why we need to get big man help NOW

[birdie]

yes they are not unbeatable, but we can't beat them, Cleveland, maybe can beat them beacause
of they rebound skills, but we will get big damage in our game in playoffs, something that we won't
see of them, Rondo will make 20 TO a game we need a backup PG and a Center

[findawgg]

"I honestly believe people are completely missing what the celtics are doing in the here and now and are too wrapped up in what we need. We can live int he future and the past, but it's no fun that way. You guys do know that a trait of addiction is when you fail to see what is happening in the here and now right? I'm starting to worry about you guys. Enjoy the season please..... Findawgg with his its not a kneejerk response and you derren saying we need this now sounds like someone looking for a fix. "

Thanks your highness.......could you be any more condescending? Sorry we don't share your omniscience. The fact of the matter is not a week past from the time I started that thread when the Celtics were all but devoid of ANY front court help, so ya bubba the sky had begun to fall and you are blind if you can't see it. Did we watch the same Detroit game in which Hunter absolutely abused House when he was given the PG responsibilities? Mad Max isn't there sole help off the bench, Primo has been more reliable as a back up big than Pollard has been all season. You aren't giving Stuckey nearly enough credit, I have NBA League Pass and have watched several Detroit games. Stucky is a nice option to bring off the bench and is a nice defender. Boston and Detroit are pretty evenly matched..........as represented by their head to head records. My concern isn't so much with Detroit as it is with the durability of Boston's front court! There is a reason why we have heard from the talking heads time and time again that an ab strain is a tricky injury.......BECAUSE IT IS. There is no one means of pro active medical means by which to treat such an injury, it has to heal before rehab can even begin, so as not to re-injure it. Perk's surgically repaired shoulder is a problem. It popped out on it's own.....no contact involved. That means it will happen again. Pollard has been little more than a seat warmer thus far, and there is little indication that he will be anything but. With two available roster spots its not unreasonable to bring in help for the front court. While I wouldn't mind seeing help in the back court, I don't think it's as necessary as front court help. Do I think this team as currently constituted and healthy is good enough to win it all, YUP, would it hurt to bring in help in the backcourt...........NOPE. All things considered would it be in Boston's best interest to bring in another big absolutely.

"You guys do know that a trait of addiction is when you fail to see what is happening in the here and now right?"

Last but not least, you do realize that a trait of an arrogant !!!GREENIAC!!! is when you feel as though it's ok to talk down to your pears simply because they have an opinion that isn't congruous with yours...........right?

--Fin

[eja117]

findawg said:

.could you be any more condescending?

Oh gosh yeah. We've been way more condescending than that. I guess now that the entire front court is hurt I guess I would like to see them bring in a big man.

By the way Fin. Who do you suggest? Cause I'm not sure there's anyone out there better than Kandi.

I wonder if Barkley or the Mailman would sign minimum contracts for 10 minutes a nite? I wonder if Barkely would get a heart attack.

[cfoo]

I wasn't be that way. You are teh one speaking in caps. I was just trying to explain something and I wasn't being condescending. I didn't mean that personally or the way you read it. If you are going to respond and say I'm being condescending and then call me your highness and arrogant, it's kind of an oxymoron. I'm just calling it as I see it man. We are 41-9 and there has been no indication that our depth can't hold up. Because it has. I just don't understand why all we talk about is how desparate we are for a big man and pg, when we are 41-9. This is why the internet sucks because people read things the wrong way and don't understand what is actually being said. We just end up getting under each otehrs skin when that's not even what I was trying to do. I was just trying to explain my pov. I'm not going to agree and say maybe you have a point, because I really don't think we need these things. That's just my honest opinion. It does amaze me how much time we spend talking about something that is really a nonissue for teh most part imo. I've even said we could use these things but you keep coming back that we ened this and we need it now. it goes both ways. You have completely failed to see my pov. You just keep getting more and more adament that this is a must have. Let it rest. how many posts have there been about this? I think most people a re aware of this by now. Let's find something else to talk about. .

That doesn't mean I respect Derren or you any less or was being condescending. I respect Derren and he always has good points. I just think he's way off here and I was trying to reason with him. Normally I'm just joking for the most part and it sucks because I knwo people read it the wrong way.

I'd love to hear your guys pov on the celtics and what we are doing and we rarely talk about that, vs what we don't have. Because I do respect people on this board. It just gets tiring talking about the same things. We aren't being constructive. We are talking about the same things over and over and its going nowhere. If Ainge wants to make a move he will already.

[runrondo]

cf00 said:

Normally I'm just joking for the most part and it sucks because I knwo people read it the wrong way.

Yup, that's a huge problem with posting on message boards..Sometimes smilies help or adding a funny/sarcastic line here or there helps but that can just be misinterpreted..Just remember we're all Celtics fans ;D

[eja117]

cf00 said:

I wasn't be that way. You are teh one speaking in caps. I was just trying to explain something and I wasn't being condescending. I didn't mean that personally or the way you read it. If you are going to respond and say I'm being condescending and then call me your highness and arrogant, it's kind of an oxymoron. I'm just calling it as I see it man. We are 41-9 and there has been no indication that our depth can't hold up. Because it has. I just don't understand why all we talk about is how desparate we are for a big man and pg, when we are 41-9. This is why the internet sucks because people read things the wrong way and don't understand what is actually being said. We just end up getting under each otehrs skin when that's not even what I was trying to do. I was just trying to explain my pov. I'm not going to agree and say maybe you have a point, because I really don't think we need these things. That's just my honest opinion. It does amaze me how much time we spend talking about something that is really a nonissue for teh most part imo. I've even said we could use these things but you keep coming back that we ened this and we need it now. it goes both ways. You have completely failed to see my pov. You just keep getting more and more adament that this is a must have. Let it rest. how many posts have there been about this? I think most people a re aware of this by now. Let's find something else to talk about. .

That doesn't mean I respect Derren or you any less or was being condescending. I respect Derren and he always has good points. I just think he's way off here and I was trying to reason with him. Normally I'm just joking for the most part and it sucks because I knwo people read it the wrong way.

I'd love to hear your guys pov on the celtics and what we are doing right and we rarely talk about that, vs what we don't have. Because I do respect people on this board. It just gets tiring talking about the same things. We aren't being constructive. We are talking about the same things over and over and its going nowhere. If Ainge wants to make a move he will already.

Geez Chief and Fin. Don't go all Dr. Phil and Springer on us

[cfoo]

lol. see I was split on just coming back with a short sarcastic funny response or trying to explain my pov. I tried to explain. Which is probably a mistake sometimes.

Anyways my only point is we should be able to move on and find something better to talk about instead of dwelling on the same crap over an over. Am I wrong? I know I'm not. If we had this same conversation in real life it would be ridiculous. I think we all get it by now. I'm just as bad, so lets just stop. Just some people agree and disagree. I've read fins posts and I'm not being condescending. I know he's a smart guy. So is derren. This is why we should be able to find something else to talk about.

I think if we ever talked in person people would be amazed at how much gets misunderstood and misheard through the internet. What I was actually saying and vice versa. The internet is bad, mmmkay. Next on Dr. Phil.

[eja117]

cf00 said:

we should be able to find something else to talk about.

mmkaayyy

We need small man help NOW

[eja117]

Yahoo sports is predicting this trade should happen for the Celts this year. I'm not sure I understand the joke

6. Nobody to Boston

The Boston Celtics badly need point guard help but lack the ammunition to make a run at the Clippers' Sam Cassell. Instead, they'll go the imaginative route and build a magical point guard out of socks and glue.


If I were the Clippers I'd be insanely happy to get Powe for Cassell or an expiring contract like Pollard or a young expiring contract like Tony Allen. I don't know what the money is, but Cassell is old, so why not get youth? Maybe they're saying we can't afford to give up anyone that another team would want.

It's fine by me. DA decided Stoudamire couldn't take mins from Rondo or House and I suspect the big man situation is similar.

So play Pruitt already

[eja117]

Ok NOW I think we need help. We ought to use up those roster spots. Now that the Spurs have added Kurt Thomas I think whoever comes out of the West is a much better team, plus we can use the help just getting by the Pistons at this point. 4 West teams made huge additions, while KG and Perk got hurt. The only good thing that came out of it is extra mins for Davis and Powe. We need to keep giving them lots of mins now to get them ready and Pruitt. Plus it's keep the other guys fresher. More mins for Tony Allen too and we have to get someone even if they are just NBDL guys. I guess I'd bring in for tryouts Samaki Walker, Jackie Butler, Oriene Greene, and Nick Fazekas and whoever the best NBDL guys are

[eja117]

And call the Mailman, Rodman, and Charles Oakley

[cfoo]

We are fine. We did our work during hte offseason and got a guy named KG, Ray Allen, Posey, House, Pollard. Who cares what the west is doing. They are just going to beat up on each other while we just have to beat one of them. Detroit traded their big men so-called "depth" in Brezac for another sg that isn't a true bacup point. Wasn't someone just saying how much better depth he is than what we have?

Cleveland is a team that improved themselves and who we should worry about a bit. But they are going to have to work all these new guys in while we've had a headstart as far as chemistry is concerned. It was basically just detroit and whoever we play out west who we had to contend with and cleveland made things a bit more interesting with Orlando. We stilla re better and should beat those teams if we play to our potential though. I still dont see a team that is more talented then us or has the chemistry we do at this point. Dallas and the lakers and the suns and spurs are going to be tough. But they all have to play each other and we only have to play one. Plus New Orleans, DEnver, GS, etc, etc...

[eja117]

The Pistons made a trade? I have looked and I don't see it.

My problem is that I think every single team that I was concerned about just got way better. Whoever we go through in the playoffs is a very good team now. The Cavs are way better with ben Wallace, Delonte, Wally, and joe Smith now. Detroit is still good. The prospect of Lebron with help bothers me.

Then if we get to the Finals Kobe, Odom, and Gasol or Shaq and the Suns (not as worried about that) or Kidd, Terry, Howard, and Dirk (not as worried about that either) or Duncan, Parker, Manu and kurt Thomas definitely has me quite concerned.

If our guys were the epitome of health and youth and I had tons of confidence in guys like Perk and Tony Allen I wouldn't be concerned but that's not the way it is.

Luckily hopefully you are right and these guys plus even Denver and the Jazz and Hornets will beat each other up but still there are a lot of teams out there now that are much stronger than they were

[eja117]

Oh man. i forgot all about Orlando and GS

[cfoo]

Yeah there are a ton of good teams, but luckily we dont have to play them all. The talent level in the nba and especially out west has to be at an alltime high. Luckily its spread out amongst a lot of teams and most of the really good teams are out west minus Detroit.

We are better than DEtroit imo, and barring injury or just a letdown we should make it to the finals, and be able to beat a team like dallas or phoenix or the lakers or whoever in the finals. There are a ton of good teams though and it wont be easy and it will be well deserved if we do it.