Would you trade Davis for Gomes?

[eja117]

I think as good as Davis can be Powe isn't too much worse and Gomes would just absolutely cement a championship and we'd do it with a hometown guy, but that's three lopsided trades in a row with the Wolves. Maybe we'd have to send a 2nd rounder to boot

[cfoo]

No. I like Big Baby. Gomes was pretty good, but Davis is a lot more physical.

[runrondo]

Gomes is essentially a SF and we have Posey and i'd rather have a tough, and pounding Big Baby than Gomes who is a great player with a jumper and all at PF.. He just isn't what this team needs another of..Big Baby is usually harped on for his lack of height but Gomes is pretty much a little bit smaller and without the weight..I don't know, i loved Gomes when he was here, i just don't think he fits into this team..

[freshnthehouse]

If we were starting a roster from scratch Id take Gomes, but for the purposes of this team this year, I'll take BBD. We need biguns.

[mev17]

runrondo said:

Gomes is essentially a SF and we have Posey and i'd rather have a tough, and pounding Big Baby than Gomes who is a great player with a jumper and all at PF.. He just isn't what this team needs another of..Big Baby is usually harped on for his lack of height but Gomes is pretty much a little bit smaller and without the weight..I don't know, i loved Gomes when he was here, i just don't think he fits into this team..

I agree; it's not just a matter of who is the better player but what need they would address. If we trade Davis for Gomes, then we essentially have no back up center. Gomes is not big enough, Powe can play PF but not center, and Pollard is not healthy enough to be relied on.

Because of his size and strength, we need Davis more than Gomes right now. Plus, when Posey is healthy again, he gives us a shooting forward who can rebound and defend -- he and Gomes would in many ways be duplicative.

[kofanis0880]

Which was the first lopsided one?

The one where we traded Ricky Davis for that scrub they call Wally Sczerbiak and a 1st that we gave back?

I wouldnt trade for Gomes because he is a free agent.

[DERRENMATTS]

What I liked about Gomes was his knack for coming down with offensive rebounds, and getting good positioning on defensive rebounds--he also was a good complimentary offensive player.

What I like about Big Baby Davis is his knack for coming down with offensive rebounds, and getting good positioning on defensive rebounds--he also is a good complimentary offensive player.

Baby has much more charisma, which is important cause it ignites the crowd.

All in all, though I think Gomes would be terrific off the bench, I'm happy with Baby.

BUT, Gomes finishes under the basket a lot cleaner than Baby (though Baby somehow gets his shots to fall).

[eja117]

kofanis0880 said:

Which was the first lopsided one?

The one where we traded Ricky Davis for that scrub they call Wally Sczerbiak and a 1st that we gave back?

I wouldnt trade for Gomes because he is a free agent.

Yeah. The one we got rid of Blount in (aka worst contract in the league). I would have paid for them to take him. Instead we actually got something. And Ricky is also a problem albeit talented

[eja117]

If Minnesota can play Al J at center we could put KG there in with Posey and Gomes or Gomes and Pollard. I just think Gomes is the better player now. He can play consistent minutes and is by far the better passer and shooter with a far better court IQ. He is fine at getting the Garden crowd going. One shouldn't confuse being a clown with charisma

[cfoo]

Gomes is a good player. i just think it's more about how players fit. Gomes was a versatile scorer and player who was decent defensively and on the boards. I think Davis is more of an energy player and a physical presence inside. Gomes has a few years on Davis, but I just think Davis fits better on this team. Nothing against Gomes. He is a more polished scorer and player at this point. I wouldn't trade Davis for him because I think we need what davis does more than what gomes does. Gomes is smooth and has a good jumper but he never was really a physical presence inside.

[eja117]

One thing surprising me in this thread is that people act like Davis actually plays. His minutes are erratic and so are his performances, whereas Gomes is good for a lot of productive mins every single nite and I think we need that. He would be our best bench guy easily.

[cfoo]

Gomes is also starting in Minny. He wouldn't be starting. I agree he would be putting up better numbers than davis, but we basically have posey and davis in that tweener role and it works. It's a better defensive and rebounding unit. Davis is going to get better as well. It would be nice to have gomes scoring on the bench but i dont think we miss it overly. He'd be averaging around 10 or 11 a game and thats basically what posey does anyways. And posey is a much better defender.

The same question could be asked would you rather Posey or GOmes. I think Posey and Davis as a tandem is the best option because it gives us the best defender and outside shooter and interior player and rebounder. Gomes is a more well rounded in between kind of player. Do we want one playe who shoots pretty good, scores inside pretty good, defends ok and rebounds ok or do we want 2 guys where one defends really good, can shoot it, and one guy who can really bang inside and rebound and get putbacks. It's omre a role thing and we have the best guys that play their role. Gomes is more of a guy you have come in and can do a lot of little things and score and do a decent job at everything.

It's the smae thing with ta and gerald. I'd rather TA because he fits this team. Sure gerald has potential to score 20 pts a game someday but Allen is young too and can defend and is a better fit. Telfair is putting up numbers close to rondo. Id still rather rondo for the same reasons. I'd rather a bench filled with guys who do certain things very well and play their role well than a guy who puts up numbers.

[eja117]

But if you're putting up numbers you're doing things well. Davis puts up no numbers and does nothing all that well until around every 7th game or so he does well. I would rather try to win a game with an oversized and agressive sf (Posey) and an undersized, smart, good shooting, good passing, scrappy pf (Gomes) than Posey and a rookie who rarely plays well but just happens to be big and can eat up space.
I don't think Davis would be starting in Minny.

[cfoo]

I don't either. But Gomes has a few years on davis. I think Glenn has as much potential as gomes. If it was Davis 3rd or 4th year in the league he would be starting in minny probably. What year is this for Gomes anyways? And I agree Gomes is a more complete player than Davis.

[cfoo]

I think you are undervaluing as well by saying all he does is eat up space and is big. Davis can play. He is great around the rim for the most part. Much better than gomes imo.