|
|
Post by DERRENMATTS on Dec 19, 2007 22:57:41 GMT -5
The Rondo Experience started last year, but now he's starting to flex his arms. I think Rondo is beginning to see what he's capable of, and that he can play with big time PG's in the League. The Rondo of the 1st half vs. the Pistons is what we need!!! He attacked, he made the Pistons defense adjust their game, and he helped us get a 7 pt lead at the half. Without his scoring help, we probably would have been down at the half--and the evidence is what happened to us in the 2nd half. We imploded. I'm not putting the blame on Rondo for our loss, but had he been the same aggressive Rondo of the first half, I think we would have won the game. Rondo is stepping up his game, and he's beginning to show teams that its not just about the Trilogy. He's playing with more confidence, and there's more to come. A confident Rondo who knows how good he is = Tony Parker. You are going to see more penetrations into the lane, you are going to see more creative ball handling, you are going to see more incredible passes, you are going to see the tempo sped up more, and you are going to see Rondo hold onto the ball longer and command the team (to a certain extent--we are talking about the Trilogy here  ). He won't be forking the ball over as quickly as he has been. We need Rondo to become our 4th leading scorer, giving us 14 ppg. This is the magic number. Our title hopes are increased if Rondo averages this much per game. This will mean he's attacking and taking pressure away from the Trilogy. |
|
|
|
Post by runrondo on Dec 19, 2007 23:06:35 GMT -5
It's not Rondo's fault that he didn't contribute in the second half it was the refs that stopped him from being aggressive on defense and keeping him on the bench...Billups could just drive right into Rondo's chest and essentially charge him and Rondo would be called for a foul..Anyway, Rondo was spectacular and i'm pretty sure he would've gotten a career high in points today if it wasn't for the fouls...Our offense collapsed when Rondo was not pushing the tempo and penetrating..our offense became predictable and we fell into the slum of playing the Piston's way...Rondo had 7 ast. along with the 14pts which shows how much more open guys are when he penetrates leading to made jumpers...Rondo is finally showing not me or celtic's fans(Cause i know and i'm sure most of us know what he's capable of) but the media and rest of the NBA who he really is and defense will pay when they leave Rondo open..He hit the jumper soooo well today..
|
|
|
|
Post by DERRENMATTS on Dec 19, 2007 23:10:54 GMT -5
Totally. Our offense can become stationary and predictable. When Rajon penetrates, it opens up a lot of options. Not only for one pass-- it can lead to a couple of others too. One good pass leads to another, and another--which usually ends up a wide open perimeter shot for RAllen or Pierce, or a wide open dunk for Perk or KG.
Like Parker, Rajon can be a factor, even if he doesn't take a single jumper in the game.
|
|
|
|
Post by freshnthehouse on Dec 20, 2007 6:27:17 GMT -5
Rondo looked great in the first half, but he needed to make some plays on D in the 2nd half. CB showed why he's a great player and that Rondo has a lot to learn.
|
|
|
|
Post by DERRENMATTS on Dec 20, 2007 14:49:24 GMT -5
What I'm realizing about Rondo is he's an excellent steals guy, but not as good at staying in front of his man, as like Marcus Banks. Rondo is long and has good anticipations skills that he can come up with a lot of steals by poking around. But as for keeping his man in front of him and making him change directions, Rondo needs work.
|
|
|
|
Post by eddietours on Dec 20, 2007 15:25:10 GMT -5
as a second year player l thing rondo is ahead of tony parker what you guys think
|
|
|
|
Post by runrondo on Dec 20, 2007 22:04:54 GMT -5
Rondo's pretty close to Parker at the second year stage..Looking statwise, Rondo is averaging 9.3ppg and 5.3ppg while Parker in his rookie year averaged 9.2ppg and 4.3apg...Parker's second year averages where 15.5ppg and 5.3apg..So i'd say he's equal to the Parker in between his first and second year because we've seen a different Rondo these last few games compared to the beginning of this season..Using stats again, in the last 5 games Rondo is averaging 12.6ppg 5.8apg 3.8rpg 1.6spg so lately he's showing signs of Parker when he was in his 2nd year...He's better defensively but still needs to work on KEEPING HIS MAN IN FRONT OF HIM..He thinks just cause he's got quick hands and speed he can let the guy go around him, he'll learn...Just look at how much he's improved since the first game of the season and the last game..Still long time to learn before playoffs come...
|
|
|
|
Post by Roadrunner on Dec 20, 2007 23:09:44 GMT -5
I think w/ Parker, SAN has let Parker develop even at Duncan's expense.
|
|
|
|
Post by freshnthehouse on Dec 21, 2007 4:43:41 GMT -5
as a second year player l thing rondo is ahead of tony parker what you guys think disagree. rondo is coming along nicely, but hes not close to where parker was at the same stage in his career. |
|
|
|
Post by eja117 on Dec 21, 2007 9:01:17 GMT -5
as a second year player l thing rondo is ahead of tony parker what you guys think disagree. rondo is coming along nicely, but hes not close to where parker was at the same stage in his career. I agree with fresh about Rondo's rookie year, but I'm not sure what would have happened had Parker played with three stars like this in his second year |
|
|
|
Post by Deleted on Dec 21, 2007 9:47:36 GMT -5
I think Rondo Is rounding into just what Doc wants... Remember Doc is a point guard and know what a PG should do.. We have went through many since he has been here.. He has never supported any outside of West and even then stated a little on the slow side... With that said we do need a backup... And I am not sure just yet if we have one on the team... As far as the team state.. I am really getting mad a all of these so called experts that claim we are pretenders.. Yes, we have not won anything yet and yes our 3 biggest game have all been losses... But with a 1 point loss, an overtime loss and a 2 point loss... with each coming do to the last shot... So with that I state we have not been beat down in any game yet.. Can any other of the so call contender state that...
|
|
|
|
Post by eja117 on Dec 21, 2007 9:53:37 GMT -5
I think Rondo Is rounding into just what Doc wants... Remember Doc is a point guard and know what a PG should do.. We have went through many since he has been here.. He has never supported any outside of West and even then stated a little on the slow side... With that said we do need a backup... And I am not sure just yet if we have one on the team... As far as the team state.. I am really getting mad a all of these so called experts that claim we are pretenders.. Yes, we have not won anything yet and yes our 3 biggest game have all been losses... But with a 1 point loss, an overtime loss and a 2 point loss... with each coming do to the last shot... So with that I state we have not been beat down in any game yet.. Can any other of the so call contender state that... I totally agree with that. That's a darn good first post here. Koolaid for that. |
|
|
|
Post by DERRENMATTS on Dec 21, 2007 12:53:26 GMT -5
I think Rondo CAN rival Parker when Parker was a sophomore IF Rondo looks for his own shot more. Tony Parker is, and was back then, an offensive minded player, and that's what's got him on the map. Rajon, if he wants to be, can be a solid scorer, and I'm advocating this to happen--I want Rajon to be more selfish (in a good way, not a Marbury way). If he averages double digit points, we beat any team in the East.
We are a top 3 or 4 team in the League right now. If Rondo averages 14 - 15 ppg, we become the favorites for the title. There'll be no way for any team to cover 4 legit scorers.
|
|
|
|
Post by moreese on Dec 23, 2007 15:19:29 GMT -5
I think Rondo is doing exactly what we need him to do, picking his spots. You can definitely argue that Rondo should be more aggressive, but you also have to look at it from his perspective. He has 3 hall of fame players on his team, and the fact that he is mature enough to recognize that he is the 4th option in this offense is great. The way he played against Detroit was perfect, because in the first half they literally were not guarding him. So he took full advantage, attacking when he should have and making them pay. In the second half Detroit realized that they had to respect him, and unfortunately Rondo is still suffering from lack of respect by the refs.
This happens to a lot of young guys who have yet to emerge as "superstars." When he goes up against a guy like Billups or Parker, he just isn't going to get any calls. Part of it is his inexperience defensively against these guys, I'm certainly not denying that. But I'm definitely seeing a similar trend that I saw with someone like Al Jefferson, where before they get that name recognition, they just do not get a fair crack with the refs when playing against other superstars.
Rondo was not as aggressive in the second half against Detroit, but I think that was more because Detroit started to pay attention to him more. I think Rondo passes up shots he should probably take sometimes, but I'm not buying into the fact that he's lacking confidence. I think Rondo knows exactly what he's doing out there and I honestly don't have a huge issue with him passing up a somewhat contested lay up for a wide open Ray Allen 3 pointer. We have the weapons, and we have a point guard who is committed to using them to their fullest. That is all we can ask for.
|
|
|
|
Post by DERRENMATTS on Dec 23, 2007 20:00:11 GMT -5
I think Rondo is doing exactly what we need him to do, picking his spots.. I'm thinking he can pick and choose his spots better. There are times when our offense goes into slumps (3-4 possessions wihout scoring), and during these slumps, I think Rondo can attack more and open things up. He's good at getting into the lane, and once he's there options will be opened up for the offense. |
|
). He won't be forking the ball over as quickly as he has been.
