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Post by Deleted on Jul 18, 2007 4:23:02 GMT -5
I agree completely, another factor people don't seem to take account for is the fact that he plays behind someone (with the initials PP) This has also slowed his development a bit. Now with Allen in the fold it probably just makes the situation worse. We do have some outstanding assets for the offensive side of the ball ... to bad we cant guard a chair  |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 18, 2007 15:51:27 GMT -5
Aren't we going a bit overboard about a summer league performance?
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Post by eja117 on Jul 18, 2007 17:11:09 GMT -5
GG may have a high ceiling, but after two years he's still in the basement. He shouldn't be a liability every time he steps on the court when it's not a dunk contest Isn't this exactly what was said about Jefferson?? First of all gandahlf, koolaid point for the screenname cause I love it. Second Al was hurt a lot and playing a harder position and wasn't clearly more physically gifted than nearly everyone he came across. If there had been a big man equivalent of a dunk contest he wouldn't have won it. GG has every tool and isn't using them, whereas Al was. And to be fair both Gomes and Perk beat out Al while he was hurt. For now GG hasn't beaten out anyone and he doesn't show the signs Al showed that he would. |
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Post by eja117 on Jul 18, 2007 17:13:29 GMT -5
Aren't we going a bit overboard about a summer league performance? Guilty as charged. In my humble defense let me say that when people went overboard cause a guy did well at summer league nobody had a problem with that. But when I do so for a guy doing horrid that's not ok? |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 18, 2007 19:12:45 GMT -5
Aren't we going a bit overboard about a summer league performance? Guilty as charged. In my humble defense let me say that when people went overboard cause a guy did well at summer league nobody had a problem with that. But when I do so for a guy doing horrid that's not ok? Personally I don't really even look at summer league good or bad. In all reality at least half these guys will be bagging groceries by early November. That doesn't mean that a good player should play good or vice versa. We have no idea what the coaching staff was instructing these guys to do, it could be they were working on one nuance of the game and did well. Again, it really means nothing. Gerald missing shots is not a concern to me, i think we all know the one thing he does pretty well is shoot. As I said earlier...now if we could guard a chair, I might even get excited. |
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Post by BCHISTORIAN on Jul 19, 2007 2:26:55 GMT -5
ragarding all this gerald green hatefest that we see in different message boards:
the first thing we as fans should do is to look at our expectations and put thing into perspective at the same time.
a lot of fans have for some reason started to think that gerald should be almost all-star as soon as yesterday (as the expression goes). had gerald been drafted in 1985 instead of 2005 he would have gotten meaningful playing time maybe only in 1989. and guess what - no one would have cared less.
the second thing that we need to keep in mind is that fans of the celts always need someone to blame. last summer it was scalabrine and to a lesser extent - our redeemed son - al jefferson. before that it was lafrentz, walker, mccarty (for god's sake - a basketball player because only of his size) and so on. as i said eveyone were down on al as well. the point that he had clifford ray to teach him and gerald doesn't have anyone similar for his position is moot. trainer only helps a player become what he becomes. the player himself has to go through it all. otherwise we could hire phil jackson to make all the scalabrines become michael jordans
and i don't even compare gerald to all the kobes and tracys of the world rigth now. that's just not relevant.
that all is not to say gerald could not be traded. nba is business afterall. it just the criticism of unreasonable propostions that i find to be annoying.
another thing i would say to all these wannabe gms of message boards: stop making fool of yourself with all these ludicrous trade ideas. i mean ratliff and green for shareef or ilgauskas or whoever just to get gg out of boston. you are either complete and utter idiots to know anything about the business of nba or you just don't have personal life so your state of mind depends on gerald green's shooting percentages. wake up!!!
in the end eveyone has the right for his opinion. i prefer to see 21 year old kid with good work ethic and and good potential coming off his second season in the nba where he averaged 10 points in 22 minutes. heck i was way more stupider and hadn't achieved nothing at all when i was 21. how about you?
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Post by ferbo on Jul 19, 2007 22:57:36 GMT -5
Well, I for one had not yet received the Nobel Prize(s) for Physics and Literature.
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Post by ferbo on Jul 19, 2007 22:57:59 GMT -5
Need I say more?
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Post by freshnthehouse on Jul 20, 2007 4:30:43 GMT -5
Well, I for one had not yet received the Nobel Prize(s) for Physics and Literature. I received my first Nobel prize at the age of 17. After winning additional (read: 83) Nobel prozes throughout my life, I wish I wouldnt have won one so soon. you truly dont appreciate them until you are a bit older. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 20, 2007 8:08:43 GMT -5
ragarding all this gerald green hatefest that we see in different message boards: the first thing we as fans should do is to look at our expectations and put thing into perspective at the same time. a lot of fans have for some reason started to think that gerald should be almost all-star as soon as yesterday (as the expression goes). had gerald been drafted in 1985 instead of 2005 he would have gotten meaningful playing time maybe only in 1989. and guess what - no one would have cared less. the second thing that we need to keep in mind is that fans of the celts always need someone to blame. last summer it was scalabrine and to a lesser extent - our redeemed son - al jefferson. before that it was lafrentz, walker, mccarty (for god's sake - a basketball player because only of his size) and so on. as i said eveyone were down on al as well. the point that he had clifford ray to teach him and gerald doesn't have anyone similar for his position is moot. trainer only helps a player become what he becomes. the player himself has to go through it all. otherwise we could hire phil jackson to make all the scalabrines become michael jordans and i don't even compare gerald to all the kobes and tracys of the world rigth now. that's just not relevant. that all is not to say gerald could not be traded. nba is business afterall. it just the criticism of unreasonable propostions that i find to be annoying. When you have players like PP and Ray Allen on your roster, fans are going to expect him to reach their stature. He's the guy that's to lead this franchise in the next generation of celtic players. That's a lot pressure for someone at his age to reach. Probably one of the biggest reasons why he gets fustrated at times. lol, that's what message boards/blogs are all about. We all think we can be GM but, in reality we are not. What these internet GM don't take into account are players mental state, chemistry, or the concept of supply and demand. Everyone wants to see Ainge make a trade that will totally put us over the top. So they come up with rediculious ideas like the Big Z trade or Sar. Neither would put us over the top nor are conclusively better than what we have on the roster right now. There is a big reason why those players respective teams are in the market trying to trade them away. But, Mr. Internet GM said so and so put up this many times in the past 3-5 years. In essence, they'll be more productive than GG would. I mean how do they know what Green is going to put up in the next 3-5 years? Who knows??? Unless your the big man himself or have a time machine no way can we predict how a player matures. At 21, I was in my 3rd of college and working part time at UPS. I wish i was getting paid 1.5 mil - 2 mil per year to play a sport that i love. Not sit in a classroom wishing the day i don't have to work at a job making $11 an hr that'll probably give me arthritis in my 40s. Thank god i quit that crap job! But yeah, GG has achieve alot more than any of us could imagine. Being able to play in NBA against the best Athletes in the world is a huge accomplishment. He can retire tomorrow and basically have done more than I possibly could in my lifetime. |
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