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Post by DERRENMATTS on Jun 13, 2007 17:18:41 GMT -5
The draft and trades are all about finding the right combination. No sense in drafting Brewer or Thornton if we trade for Rashard, JJ, or Marion. And no sense in signing Darko (I'd like this to go down) if we draft Noah, Hawes, or Yi. Doing these combos are just overloading our positions.
So, to keep ourselves from making these mistakes, here's what I'd do. If we do make a trade for Rashard Lewis or Joe Johnson, we will have a high first round pick in our pocket, and since we have taken care of our SF slot, we should draft Joakim Noah. The reason being; with Rashard or JJ, next to Jefferson and Pierce, we will have way more than enough scoring firepower in the starting lineup, that we will be much better off getting a defensive minded Center like Noah. His defensive intensity paired along with Rajon Rondo's pesky defense will help round off our lack of defense.
Noah
Jefferson
Rashard or JJ
Pierce
Rajon
If we use the 5th pick to draft Corey Brewer or Al Thornton, we should sign Darko Milicic as our offseason pick up.
Darko
Jefferson
Brewer or Thornton
Pierce
Rajon
If we aren't going to pick up Darko, or we won't be trading for Rashard, JJ or Marion, we should draft Spencer Hawes. IMO, he's the best combination of skills at Center (passing, scoring, rebounding, perimeter shooting, post moves, etc.)
Hawes
Jefferson
Pierce
Tony
Rajon
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Post by BCHISTORIAN on Jun 14, 2007 1:40:50 GMT -5
getting jj and noah would be ok indeed if the price is only 5th pick, green and ratliff /maybe some other young players except rondo, al and perk). i would even give up green in that scenario because jj is what we hope green becomes one day. more or less at least. but who believes that noah falls to 11th pick? i don't think so. spencer hawes more likely.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 14, 2007 11:01:07 GMT -5
You are absolutely right in matching the right combinations in the draft and non more evident than in the 2001 draft...we went away with basically 3 SG in that draft and we ended up trading basically the wrong Prospect(JJ) when we should have traded K. Brown.
I hope Danny makes the right combination of trades and picks this time around, this draft will make or break our upcoming season. and i agree with mostly your assessment of combinations of who Danny should take.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 14, 2007 13:06:10 GMT -5
I would definitely go with Rashard Lewis / Noah combination sense it fill some of the needs we need. With Lewis, we add another big-man/wingman combo who can play the 3/4th spot. He'll help spread the floor along with adding some athleticism for the fast break. Probably won't be adding much rebounding but, with Noah and Jefferson he really doesn't need to grab 8-10 rebs per game.
Noah is what i see as our battier/camby/diaw type players. They add energy, good defense, and ultimate complementary player. We don't need another shooting option on this roster. Without RL/Noah, we should be averaging atleast 95-100pts per game easily.
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Post by eja117 on Jun 14, 2007 13:15:28 GMT -5
I guess I would agree with that. Plus if we don't have big big men we might as well have a big sf. Is he good on defense?
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Post by freshnthehouse on Jun 14, 2007 15:00:39 GMT -5
Not according to the folks on the ESPN sonics message board. |
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Post by DERRENMATTS on Jun 14, 2007 17:02:42 GMT -5
Welcome to the community JHonBop.
In some capacity, we need to improve our defense--and that should be high on our priority list. If we get a defensive wing player (by drafting Brewer), then getting a well rounded Center is who we should draft or trade for (Darko, Spencer, Yi). But if we get an offensive minded wing player (Rashard Lewis, Joe Johnson), we should look at Noah in the draft, because of his defensive intensity and high energy.
A number of ways we can tackle this offseason, but one move we really should make is getting David Blatt here as an assistant. He's a defensive minded coach, and I'd like him to incorporate his expertise in Boston.
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Post by FLCeltsFan on Jun 14, 2007 20:40:06 GMT -5
Just found this www.eurobasket.com/events/eluleb/06-07/eurol.aspThe rumors regarding Efes Pilsen's new head coach has come to an end and the Turkish powerhouse finally signed with Benetton Treviso coach David Blatt for the upcoming season. Former Maccabi Tel-Aviv and Dynamo St. Petersburg coach put pen on paper for a lucrative 1+1 deal. The one rumor I really hoped was true has come crashing down. Coaching remains the weak link for this team. |
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Post by ferbo on Jun 15, 2007 3:46:28 GMT -5
I don't want DA to draft anyone under 6'10". There are some guys who might put on an inch or so and some pounds. Frankly I like the sound of Noah. A good passer? Good defender? Crashes the board? Pretty athletic? Team oriented? Sounds like a lot of upside. Don't know what to make of Yi.
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Post by celticfan on Jun 15, 2007 8:04:02 GMT -5
I'm not sure about Noah, all this waiting and talking about it has me flip, flopping.
I see Noah as an overachiever at the collegiate level. Always hustling and running around trying to create opportunites. Which is nice and all, but at the NBA level, the stuff he does to interfere won't both composed players and he'll get burned.
A guy who hustles and brings energy to the team is a good player to have.
Is that what you want from the #5 pick though?
What definable NBA skill does he bring. What is Noah known for?
not rebounding, shooting or passing. Defence? is a great defender or just good?
I have to admit, given enough time to talk about any potential draft pick you can convince or talk yourself into or out of drafting them.
Initally I was a big No on Noah, but now... I could see him dong some good things. Not great but good.
I'd feel much better drafting him if we aquire Joe or Rashard to add scoring, then Noah and his intangibles feel much better. If we get Marion, we lose any shot at him.
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Post by celticfan on Jun 15, 2007 8:12:52 GMT -5
as for the scenario's
I like the first one best, but if we get JJ and the #11, Noah will be gone by all accounts.
It may end up being Thorton.
the 2nd one is good but I don't see Thorton going #5 (too high) It would most likely be brewer, green or Yi or if Atlanta does us a favor and takes conley at #3, Wright or Horford.
if we get Hawes (especially with the #5!!) well, I've already stated my thoughts on this....
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Post by Deleted on Jun 15, 2007 8:50:13 GMT -5
How do you know Marion trade value is going to stay at the 5th + Theo? I wouldn't be shocked if its just the media talking up his value especially for a guy who can easily option out of his contract next year. I can see us trading away Theo, GG, and future 1st rounder instead. But, why do they want to trade away Marion in the first place? They should go out and see if anyone would want to take a chance on Boris Diaw. In fact, it is more than likely the Suns will keep Marion around just to make another run at a championship.
For some reason, I think Ainge really wants Thornton in Boston. I would not be shocked if he moved GG/Wally/Theo this off-season in order to give Thornton some playing time. In fact, i wouldn't be surprised he takes Thornton as early as the 5th pick.
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Post by eja117 on Jun 15, 2007 9:15:59 GMT -5
If we go for JJ and the 11th pick we have to assume our ten favorite players will be gone by then .
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