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Post by freshnthehouse on Jun 12, 2007 8:49:47 GMT -5
Wait a second. The only superstars that have won championships in more than a decade are Shaq, Duncan, and MJ. That's it. Two are big men. One had Dennis Rodman. You're making my point. All of the championships of the last several years, except one, have been won by teams with one transcendent player. That load of stuff that seattle would send us is alright (though we would have to use most of the cap to keep it around long-term), but none of those guys are even close to being the kind of players that lead teams to titles. In the the last 25 years, every team that has one a title has had one of the top 50 all time NBA players on its roster except the 2004 Pistons. So when you have a chance to score a player that has other-worldly potential (and almost every scout believes Durant is that type of player), you don't trade it, unless you get an offer too unbelievable to refuse. |
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Post by eja117 on Jun 12, 2007 9:01:41 GMT -5
Well yeah but my point is that if you had a nickel for every time a guy was a can't miss transcendent player you'd have a bunch of nickels, whereas other players like Arenas and Nash who were supposed to be nothing become stars all the time.
I am not sold that there is basically a Shaq and an MJ in this draft and that their names are Oden and Durant.
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Post by Roadrunner on Jun 12, 2007 21:41:00 GMT -5
I would like to think that most or all of these transcendent players played 3-4 years in college.
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Post by freshnthehouse on Jun 13, 2007 2:53:30 GMT -5
I would like to think that most or all of these transcendent players played 3-4 years in college. Well of course most of the old guys did. Playing four years back then was the rule. Now its the exception. Most superstar players arent going to stick around for 4 years anymore. |
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Post by freshnthehouse on Jun 13, 2007 2:57:57 GMT -5
Well yeah but my point is that if you had a nickel for every time a guy was a can't miss transcendent player you'd have a bunch of nickels, whereas other players like Arenas and Nash who were supposed to be nothing become stars all the time. I am not sold that there is basically a Shaq and an MJ in this draft and that their names are Oden and Durant. Is Durant a sure thing? No. But as far as prep players go, his skills puts him in some pretty rarified air when it comes to NBA potential, much more than the players that will be available at #5, and the players we're receiving in return offer no chance of being that kind of player. Like the guys on the Seattle board said, you dont trade a pick w/ that much potential unless you get a young superstar player in return, because that's basically what you are giving up. |
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Post by celticfan on Jun 13, 2007 21:33:30 GMT -5
IMO what makes durant special is his killer instinct.
He took over close games for Texas and carried that team.
A young player with that much skill and that mentality makes for a special player IMO.
Now the $$$ could soften him, but if he maintains that drive, he'll be one of top players in the league.
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