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Post by DERRENMATTS on Sept 6, 2006 6:27:23 GMT -5
Curious to hear whom most of you think will be our PG for the next decade--Telfair or Rajon.
I'm actually more partial to Rajon. In my eyes, he made the better first impression when I got to see both kids play in the 2004 McDonalds All-American game. Telfair has more charisma and flare and he shines in the limelight better. But Rajon has more overall abilities, including a big time upper hand on defense.
But I won't count out Sebastian. He could turn out to be special if he plays his cards right.
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Post by FLCeltsFan on Sept 6, 2006 12:02:59 GMT -5
I like both players but after watching both players in summer league I feel that Rondo can run the team more under control. Bassy seemed to try to may too many fancy plays and seemed out of control at times. The one thing that sets Rondo apart is his defense. If I have to choose one or the other, I would say that Rondo ends up as our starting PG... Telfair would be a very solid back up with the two on the floor together from time to time. I think Rondo's defense and composure will be the difference. But like you, I won't count out Bassy either.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 6, 2006 15:44:58 GMT -5
I would take Telfair over Rondo because I feel Telfair will have a break year. First off, Telfair has lots to prove with all the hype put on his shoulder. If Rondo had the type of pressure that Telfair is going through I wouldn't know if Rajon would survive. Can you imagine being the first hs pg taken in lottery not to mention the guy who was traded for over Brandon Roy? Telfair has big shoes to fill and anything less than not starting would make this trade look horrendous.
With that said, the reason I would take Telfair over Rondo is his ability to run NBA offense, can hit open shots (not consistent), and his crafty passing ability can be very effective if used at proper times.
Rondo has to develop a jumper one way or another because this isn't a team where you have 4 all-stars around you to cover up your inept shot. If he can't carry his weight on offense then he won't see anytime besides being used for defensive purposes.
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Post by DERRENMATTS on Sept 6, 2006 18:13:35 GMT -5
JHVOS, I agree with you on one part. IMO, Telfair wants to be the leader on the court. He likes to command the offense and let his voice be heard. He likes the eyes on him. Rajon seems more than happy without all the glamour and rah rah--he just wants to play basketball. With Pierce and Wally already bona fide stars, Telfair will have to make voice heard over theirs, and I think he can do it. But at times I do wonder how Rajon will play with Pierce and Wally. Will he succumb to their demands of wanting the ball?
Doc was a PG during his playing days. Not so much a playmaker as he was a scrappy player. But since he played the position, he knows what he wants out of his PG's. He was pretty rough on Banks, but he seemed pretty lax on Delonte (IMO, these 2 guys are on opposite ends of the bball IQ spectrum). Telfair has amazing court vision, but he also has a tendency to get too fancy and do too much with the ball. Doc needs to make sure that Telfair keeps his TO's down. A 2:1 ratio (assist to turnover) is good for an average PG, but a 3:1 ratio is the bar for most good PG's.
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Post by BCHISTORIAN on Sept 7, 2006 2:23:42 GMT -5
in short term: telfair in long term: rondo so glad both are celtics
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Post by freshnthehouse on Sept 7, 2006 2:25:49 GMT -5
I have no idea. I'd say this season will give us a good glimpse of what Telfair is capable of in the future. As long as Rondo gets his feet wet, works on his shot and his atrocious FT%, Id consider that a successful season for him.
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Post by DERRENMATTS on Sept 7, 2006 2:42:38 GMT -5
In order to give each player the best chance to succeed and showcase their abilities, we need our players to run. During the summer league games, Telfair and Rajon were most effective when teammates ran with them and gave them targets to pass to. When the pace slowed down and we resorted to playing stationary, Telfair and Rajon pressed a bit and forced issues.
This is not to say that we must never slow down and play halfcourt offense, but if we do slow down, the players will still have to work hard at getting open so that Telfair and Rajon can find them.
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Post by BCHISTORIAN on Sept 7, 2006 6:32:41 GMT -5
especially when you consider that play-off basketball is more or less half-court basketball...
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Post by DERRENMATTS on Sept 7, 2006 10:43:58 GMT -5
Teams have a hard time guarding against the fast break. So if at all possible, especially during the playoffs, we must run at every opportunity.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 7, 2006 11:54:18 GMT -5
in short term: telfair in long term: rondo so glad both are celtics Aren't they both the same age? How can one be short-term while the other is long term? Unless Telfair's contract doesn't get re-negotiated in two years.
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Post by DERRENMATTS on Sept 7, 2006 12:37:35 GMT -5
Not sure if this is what BC meant, but since Telfair has already been in the league for 2 years, he's ahead of Rajon. But once Rajon gets assimilated to the speed and quick decision making needed to play at this level, he could move ahead of Telfair.
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Post by BCHISTORIAN on Sept 8, 2006 2:57:29 GMT -5
derren, that's exactly what i meant. thanks
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