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Post by DERRENMATTS on Jul 12, 2006 1:16:49 GMT -5
Would he trade AI, a world famous superstar, to a long time rival who also happens to play in the same division?
We may find out tomorrow <gulp> (or today, for some of you). Maybe we should all prepare to hear that a couple of our beloved team members may no longer be a part of our family.
If this 6 team trade is true, many are saying that Iverson is heading to Bean Town.
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Post by BCHISTORIAN on Jul 12, 2006 1:26:21 GMT -5
do you have a link for what many are saying? i have found only non-reliable sources, actually a chat-room speculations.
as for the answer to your question then every gm CAN trade superstar to a major rival IF he can cripple that team...
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Post by DERRENMATTS on Jul 12, 2006 1:37:13 GMT -5
Right. I mean, we will play Philly 3 - 4 times a season. I imagine Iverson will blow up for 40 pts in each game, maybe 50 pts in the games we play in Philly.
Ainge has made quite a few trades in his short tenure here, but none with a division rival. He knows better than that (well, I guess if this Iverson trade goes down, he doesn't know better than that).
I'm alright about trading for Iverson, as long as it doesn't involve Green or Jefferson.
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Post by mev17 on Jul 12, 2006 1:47:25 GMT -5
I personally would be very surprised if Philly traded AI to us. IIRC the trade almost happened on draft day, but Philly wanted to see what other offers they can get. IMO the reason is trading a superstar within your own division is an absolute last resort.
The rumor I heard today on espn radio was Denver sending Marcus Camby, Andre Miller and a 1st round pick to Philadelphia for Iverson.
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Post by DERRENMATTS on Jul 12, 2006 1:50:56 GMT -5
Hey there, Mev. I certainly would not trade a superstar to a team in the same division, especially not to a team whom you have bad blood with.
But hard to gauge what is really brewing. Lot of experts have been saying for a month now, that Iverson is heading this way. And Ainge himself had said that he always liked Iverson. But then again, when has Ainge ever openly displayed his desired intentions to the media?
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Post by mev17 on Jul 12, 2006 1:55:47 GMT -5
I'm with you DM. I remember the trade for Wally seemd to come out of nowhere, as did the Payton trade. I would be surprised if any of the trades as rumored are made.
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Post by DERRENMATTS on Jul 12, 2006 2:10:40 GMT -5
So it kind of scares me because we may end up getting Jermaine O'Neal, or we may end up losing Pierce.
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Post by FLCeltsFan on Jul 12, 2006 11:54:39 GMT -5
BC, there is no real reliable source for this rumor. It was mentioned by a Sacramento sportscaster and reported in several message board posts. Whether it is just rumor being reported by that sportscaster or if he actually had some kind of inside info remains to be seen.
I personally think that King would have to be crazy to trade Iverson to the Celtics. It would be a very dumb move on his part... The Denver report makes a whole lot more sense than him coming to Boston.
I am hoping that any trade that Danny makes leaves our core group of young players intact along with Pierce. A minor trade that would maybe bring in another big would be nice. But I am completely happy with keeping this group and seeing what they can do together and not doing anything major.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 12, 2006 14:16:47 GMT -5
I personally would be very surprised if Philly traded AI to us. IIRC the trade almost happened on draft day, but Philly wanted to see what other offers they can get. IMO the reason is trading a superstar within your own division is an absolute last resort. The rumor I heard today on espn radio was Denver sending Marcus Camby, Andre Miller and a 1st round pick to Philadelphia for Iverson. It looks good for philly far as talent wise goes but, if they're going to rebuild this isn't the type of trade you go for. Even then, I don't see why Denver would make the trade especially when Camby anchors their D and Miller is there only true pg on the team. I'd take AI anyday of the week. Far as I'm concern everyone is available outside of Paul Pierce.
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Post by DERRENMATTS on Jul 12, 2006 16:19:26 GMT -5
So if Billy King is not foolish enough to trade Iverson to Boston, that could mean that we are going to bring in someone else. I'm thinking it could be a big man.
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Post by goceltics34 on Jul 12, 2006 18:40:10 GMT -5
I personally would be very surprised if Philly traded AI to us. IIRC the trade almost happened on draft day, but Philly wanted to see what other offers they can get. IMO the reason is trading a superstar within your own division is an absolute last resort. The rumor I heard today on espn radio was Denver sending Marcus Camby, Andre Miller and a 1st round pick to Philadelphia for Iverson. I was thinking along those lines about a week ago, but from what im hearing from philly iverson is gone. They've tried to get him some help with webber, they couldnt coexist. The sixers are realizing they've done all they can with iverson, and its time for change. To answer your question DERREN, yes king would trade him to boston. As far as im concerned were the only legitimate contenders for iverson, because we have young players. The sixers have made it clear they want to rebuild with young, and exciting players. Denver is out of the mix because camby & miller come with huge salaries, and that's the last thing king wants. He's already paying webber 15 million per year. I think king is playing the poker game here, but the offers arent exactly pouring in to his satisfaction or iverson would have been dealt by know. If danny plays his cards right, he may be able to get iverson for a little less. I think its just a matter of when he's traded to boston and not if.
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Post by DERRENMATTS on Jul 12, 2006 20:42:30 GMT -5
If King is trying to play a poker game with Danny, Ainge better make sure he holds off the bluff and sticks to a lowball offer. Ainge must not give in and give up Gerald or Big Al. If we can get Iverson without giving up either of those young guys, I'd be open for bringing AI here.
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Post by FLCeltsFan on Jul 12, 2006 20:44:13 GMT -5
I don't want to give up Al or Perk, or Green or Gomes or West or Telfair or Rondo.... Think we could get AI for Scal???
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Post by DERRENMATTS on Jul 12, 2006 22:20:02 GMT -5
I'd be willing to give up Delonte West for Iverson. AI is a superstar who can still score 30 a night. We have 2 young PG's who have much more ball handling and playmaking skills, as well as leadership skills. Plus, if Allan Ray makes the team, he can give us some outside shooting off the bench.
The hardest thing to part with when it comes to Delonte is the character he has. He has a never quit attitude and plays his heart out. He also comes up with big plays at crucial times.
But if we can hold onto Green and Jefferson and still get Iverson (maybe Wally, Delonte, a future 1st rounder, and a few more involved coming from other teams), I'd really look into that.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 13, 2006 10:29:35 GMT -5
I'm personally happy to see others that share my opinion that Green should not be included in a trade. I have seen other boards that seem far too willing to have G money as the first piece of trade bait. I wouldn't mind seeing AI wearing green, but not at the expense of the youngsters. Derren, I could live with the proposal you have made of Wally, Delonte, a first rounder, and others. If Philly demands more, then I say look elsewhere.
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