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Post by DERRENMATTS on Jul 5, 2006 0:13:24 GMT -5
Right you are, Eddie. But it was only after the team got Clyde Drexler that they were able to win back to back championships.
Marion at the 3 and PP at the 2 would be spectacular. Marion is a defensive player too and he's a big time rebounding SF. Plus he loves to run and finish the breaks. He can even hit the three's. I sure would like to trade Wally for him instead of Iverson.
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Post by eja117 on Jul 5, 2006 9:28:59 GMT -5
Horry and Cassel were drafted like a decade after Akeem and I can't wait that long although it's beginning to feel like these players have been drafted a decade after PP.
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Post by The Eye of the Q is upon you! on Jul 5, 2006 12:00:30 GMT -5
I think the roster needs some more work long term but I worry about the coaching staff right now. They need to emphasize the defense and rebounding. I am onboard with the roster we have right now provided we can extend Pierce for three more years, probably at the max. I like the trade for Telfair as I believe he is much higher quality than Blake or Jarrett Jack (180 degree viewpoint from the too old school Bob Ryan). I also think Portland is going to struggle mightily and have the best shot at getting Greg Oden next year.
Our keys to next years success will be how well the coaching staff emphasizes the fundamentals of defense, rebounding, and taking care of the ball. The Celtics have the talent to hang with the best teams and even step up and beat them. Once again, the onus is on Doc Rivers to coach them to victory.
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Post by eddietours on Jul 5, 2006 14:37:37 GMT -5
oh eja here is a team build on draft the piston drafted thomas,dennis,salley,laimbeer,dumars
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Post by eddietours on Jul 5, 2006 15:00:54 GMT -5
my bad laimbeer was drafted by cleveland so is 4
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Post by eja117 on Jul 6, 2006 10:08:41 GMT -5
As much as I hate to admit it I think trading Delonte would be survivable with the other two pgs we have. I mean there is only so much a natural sg can do and be missed. I would miss his blocks, attitude, outside shooting and leadership, but I think if we trade him, AL, and Wally, Scala, and a future draft pick for KG there is no doubt at all that we will automatically be much better. KG has 5 good years ahead of him. That's 5 shots at a championship. It's hard to argue with that.
Also I want to make something clear. I think trading is like fantasy bball. When you are trading for KG AL J has to be on the table. When trading for AI, TA, D West, and the pgs have to be on the table. You have to trade position for position. You can't trade AI for AL. That makes no sense.
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Post by DERRENMATTS on Jul 6, 2006 11:19:33 GMT -5
I agree with you, Eja. I like Delonte, but if a deal is right, he's open for a trade. He's not as untouchable as Jefferson or Gerald.
I don't want to give up Jefferson, but if we had to move him to get KG, I would have to strongly consider that. Will Jefferson ever reach KG's level? I hardly doubt that. Big Al will be good in his own right, probably a future All-Star. But KG is an All-World talent. But the thing is, KG has only got a handful of big years left in his tank (he's been having some knee problems too), while Jefferson may have another 10+ years. That must also be taken into consideration.
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Post by ferbo on Jul 6, 2006 13:16:03 GMT -5
I would think a deal for Marion might be easier to work, because apparently Phoenix needs to move him for money reasons, whereas I think the idea of Phlly moving AI is for other reasons.
JPlus Marion has demonstrated the ability to coexist with other stars and thrive. Not sure AI has done that.
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Post by FLCeltsFan on Jul 6, 2006 13:23:34 GMT -5
I would give up Big Al for KG but not for Iverson
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Post by DERRENMATTS on Jul 6, 2006 16:40:15 GMT -5
Agreed. I think the chances of winning a championship are much better with KG on the team and not Iverson.
Wonder what it would take to get Marion. Phoenix wants to dump salary, so a third team may have to get involved. We get Marion, the third team gets whoever we trade away, and Phoenix gets the third teams expiring contracts.
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Post by The Eye of the Q is upon you! on Jul 6, 2006 19:16:19 GMT -5
I'm always going to be a celtics fan, win or lose. I have patients to wait for a championship even it may be until I start to get old. For god sakes I'm the same age as most of these players on the Cs. So, I got plenty of time. I wish I could say the same, kiddo. You probably do not remember the last Celtics championship in 1986 if you are the same age as most of the Celtics. Maybe you watched the fathers VHS tapes of Larry Bird's Celtics. Man that was some basketball back in the day. I am as eager as the next Celtics fan to get on the winning track but I understand the best thing for the Celtics is not make any foolish quick fix deals like trading Gerald Green for Iverson. I hope our rich owner understands that. Now if we can trade Scrubbabrine for a bag of potato chips, I will be a happy camper. Charlotte maybe interested in a back up to Adam Morrison.
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Post by freshnthehouse on Jul 7, 2006 1:34:48 GMT -5
I could care less if we traded Scala or not. He doesnt make much money, and he's supposed to be a good guy. He's a non-factor as far as Im concerned.
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Post by FLCeltsFan on Jul 7, 2006 8:40:15 GMT -5
The only way he does become a factor is if Doc starts playing him 30+ minutes a game instead of Jefferson or Gomes. Doc has a way of doing that. He tends to play his veterans no matter how badly they play instead of giving the kids a chance....
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Post by eja117 on Jul 7, 2006 10:09:22 GMT -5
I fogot that we also have the 2 year contract of Theo Ratliff we can trade away. That is a large contract and could be traded with Wally or instead of. I guess we also have the contract of Brian Grant. One funny thing is that when we trade with Minn it seems like we can't do anything that would pair PP with RD or Wally with KG, meaning Wally and RD have to end up on the same team. That's kinda funny. Also with Wally, TA, DW, and GG, I just have no problem at all trading PP for someone like KG and giving PPs minutes to the young guys. I think they can handle it and besides that DW, TA, and Wally aren't even that young any more. When you are too good for the summer leagues you're not young.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 7, 2006 17:32:33 GMT -5
I fogot that we also have the 2 year contract of Theo Ratliff we can trade away. That is a large contract and could be traded with Wally or instead of. I guess we also have the contract of Brian Grant. One funny thing is that when we trade with Minn it seems like we can't do anything that would pair PP with RD or Wally with KG, meaning Wally and RD have to end up on the same team. That's kinda funny. Also with Wally, TA, DW, and GG, I just have no problem at all trading PP for someone like KG and giving PPs minutes to the young guys. I think they can handle it and besides that DW, TA, and Wally aren't even that young any more. When you are too good for the summer leagues you're not young. I wouldn't mind trading Paul Pierce either if we can get KG in return.
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