2008 vs 2024

[CelticsLoyalist]

Who is the better champion and who would beat who?

[eja117]

I got 2008 and I don't think it's that close. KG would eat Al, KP, and Tatum alive. Perk would give them problems too. Pierce handled Kobe and a young Lebron. I think he can handle Jaylen. Feel free to cover Ray Allen with D White. Feel free to cover Rondo or Tony Allen with Peyton Pritchard.

[CelticsLoyalist]

KG was totally unstoppable. Besides the fact he was absolutely locked in at all times.

PP I think is underrated all time. Absolute clutch time after time. Monster stat lines especially in scoring if he was really feeling it and I also don't think you could stop PP if he were on a heater.

Plus, I think 08 was a deeper bench as well. House, Posey, Allen, Powe, PJ Brown, Davis, and don't forget Scal! (ok ok ok eja, Pollard too)

The only x-factor is the Defense. I wont say 2024 is completely dominant on that end but they have the advantage 1-5 it's off the bench where 08 Boston had better D guys. On the real, no one on the 2024 bench could touch 08's bench D guys 6 through 10 and then some.

[DERRENMATTS]

I'm torn. '08 is legendary to me, with KG-PP-RA, Doc, Unbutu, etc. But then this year's title team, maybe a lot of folks are undermining how good they really are.

It's a tie (I'll take the easy way out 😁).

[FLCeltsFan]

I'd take the 2008 team. I think KG gives them the edge and I think they were the deeper team.

[jmost]

I think this year's team wins. No rebounds no rings, and this year's team was a much better rebounding team (1st in the league vs 12th). Continuing on the theme of more possessions, the 2008 team was 27th in the league in turnovers; the 2024 team was 1st (as in least). As a result, the 2024 team was 1st in the league in shot attempts. The 2008 team was last.

2024 was [HASH]1 rated in offense, [HASH]3 in defense. The 2008 team was [HASH]1 in defense but [HASH]12 in offense.

This year's team lost 3 playoff games. The 2008 team lost 10, with two series going 7 games.

I love the 2008 team for destroying the Lakers by 39 points in Game 6, but I think this year's team is better.

[DERRENMATTS]

That's interesting. In '08 we were an average rebounding team, near the bottom in turn overs, and didn't get up as many shots. But we still had a great point differential and won 66 games (2 more than this year).

[jmost]

Yup, 2 more wins for the '08 crew. I don't remember guys taking "maintenance days" back then. I think that started with the Tim Duncan Spurs.

Here are our losses this year:

OT loss at MN. D White did not play.
Lost by 3 at PHI. Everyone played.
OT loss at CHA. D White and Al did not play.
Blown out at ORL. No Jrue.
Lost by 10 at IND. No KP.

OT loss at GS. No KP.
Lost by 4 at OKC. Everyone played.
Lost by 2 at IND. No JT or Hauser.
Blown out by MIL. No Al.
Lost by 2 to DEN. Everyone played.

Blown out at home by LAC. No KP.
Lost by 9 at home to LAL. Everyone played.
Lost by 1 at CLE. Everyone played.
Lost by 6 at DEN. Everyone played.
Lost by 2 at ATL. No D White

Lost in OT at ATL. No Al.
Lost by 13 at MIL. No KP or Al.
Lost by 9 at NYK. Everyone played.

Of the 18 losses, there were only 7 in which everyone played.

by 3 @phi with a healthy Embiid.
by 4 @okc
by 2 to DEN
by 9 at home to LAL (mental let down game with both Lakers stars not playing)
by 1 @cle (this was the game we blew a 20 point 4th quarter lead after relaxing too early)
by 6 @den (this was a 2 point game with 40 sec left)
by 9 @nyk (by now we had clinched while the Knicks were fighting for the [HASH]2 seed)

The 2023-24 Celtics were a remarkably consistent team. Not a single double digit loss when all our guys played. Not a single loss to a bad team when everyone played. Three of the losses were because we weren't engaged: the Laker loss, the CLE collapse, and the NYK game where we never really showed up. That leaves 4 games when we were fully present and engaged, 2 to DEN, which is a very good team, one to OKC, which finished first in the West, and one to PHI.

I don't think we appreciate just how good this year's team was. Most of Celtic nation watched all year with a bit of PTSD from previous playoff losses to MIA and GS. I think as time goes on, and especially if they stack more championships on top of this one, people will look back on this as a great team.

[CelticsLoyalist]

Jun 29, 2024 22:09:12 GMT -5 jmost said:

I think this year's team wins. No rebounds no rings, and this year's team was a much better rebounding team (1st in the league vs 12th). Continuing on the theme of more possessions, the 2008 team was 27th in the league in turnovers; the 2024 team was 1st (as in least). As a result, the 2024 team was 1st in the league in shot attempts. The 2008 team was last.

2024 was [HASH]1 rated in offense, [HASH]3 in defense. The 2008 team was [HASH]1 in defense but [HASH]12 in offense.

This year's team lost 3 playoff games. The 2008 team lost 10, with two series going 7 games.

I love the 2008 team for destroying the Lakers by 39 points in Game 6, but I think this year's team is better.

Big Tommy Points!!!! Nice post!

[CelticsLoyalist]

Jun 30, 2024 14:09:39 GMT -5 jmost said:

Y

I don't think we appreciate just how good this year's team was. Most of Celtic nation watched all year with a bit of PTSD from previous playoff losses to MIA and GS. I think as time goes on, and especially if they stack more championships on top of this one, people will look back on this as a great team.

I admit that was me PTSD!

[DERRENMATTS]

I agree, JMost. This year's team is underrated.

And we're most likely to get better! Aside from KP, Al, and Jrue (whose play should stay relatively the same), Tatum, Jaylen, Pritch, and Howzah are likely to improve. And getting X in the mix will further bolster our defense.