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Post by meangreen on Mar 11, 2023 12:20:27 GMT -5
Hey JMo..I'm w/you for the most part. I wouldn't trade Embiid right now. But if again this year Philly only makes it to the 2nd rd you'd have to at least entertain the thought of moving him. Last season & this season have been MVP seasons. People are starting to think about how many years does he have playing at that level playing the way he does? I don't know if you notice but people here do that for a guy his size he spends a lot of time on the floor as in falling down. It's one thing for a G or F to be picking themselves up off the ground which is no picnic but for a guy his size that's an awfully big building coming down to the ground & getting back up as much as he does. All that to say basically how many seasons do you have of Embiid at this level? You've to figure each year they don't get to the ECF or the finals that's another year lost for them. Al is probably the closest of your core guys right now where that decision is looming but the other guys you've some time on. The Cs again are ahead of Philly in having to make that decision about either Brown, Tatum, Smart, etc & have the luxury of having to make it later rather than sooner in contrast to Philly's case where I think it's the opposite. It'd be better for them to trade him as the saying goes one year too early rather than one year too late. I too am wondering if Brad has it in him to deal a guy like Smart let alone Brown, Tatum, Smart, or Al even. In order for this team to move forward to a title though he'll have to at least have it in him. Hopefully he's done his due diligence as I said before & has a value of what these guys are worth and a plan to move forward should the opportunity to deal comes...
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Post by Roadrunner on Mar 12, 2023 22:36:44 GMT -5
Would BOS receive equal value for a trade? Is there a better fit? Same timeline?
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Post by meangreen on Mar 14, 2023 18:52:17 GMT -5
RR my man!...You asked some good questions 'cause they have almost all the answers in them. It would depend on when you trade say Brown/Tatum & to whom? As I said before if the GM has done his due diligence he's already gotten a read on the market for the player(s) and has targeted a team(s) who've the assets that will get a deal done. So let's say you decided to trade either Brown or Tatum in the near future you could get one of those Dononan Mitchell type deals IMHO. If you wait then more variables come into play I would think. How well are they playing? How well is the team playing? Are you in a position of having to trade them 'cause we underachieved in the playoffs thereby minimizing your leverage somewhat or did you have another chance at the title & fall just short again in which case you have some leeway which will help to maximize your leverage? You might think though that if we made it to the finals again this year that the chances of trading either would be slim & you'd probably be looking at moving maybe Smart, Al, etc...
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Post by Roadrunner on Mar 15, 2023 22:45:18 GMT -5
RR my man!...You asked some good questions 'cause they have almost all the answers in them. It would depend on when you trade say Brown/Tatum & to whom? As I said before if the GM has done his due diligence he's already gotten a read on the market for the player(s) and has targeted a team(s) who've the assets that will get a deal done. So let's say you decided to trade either Brown or Tatum in the near future you could get one of those Dononan Mitchell type deals IMHO. If you wait then more variables come into play I would think. How well are they playing? How well is the team playing? Are you in a position of having to trade them 'cause we underachieved in the playoffs thereby minimizing your leverage somewhat or did you have another chance at the title & fall just short again in which case you have some leeway which will help to maximize your leverage? You might think though that if we made it to the finals again this year that the chances of trading either would be slim & you'd probably be looking at moving maybe Smart, Al, etc... So many choices. My hot take is that GM Brad has already been combing the market, and AGM Mike has been number crunching to make it work. Not sure there is a better player than Tatum or Brown that meets the criteria. The concern I have for this year's team, if the standings stay the same today, is that BOS would face MIA, PHI, MIL, then the WC champion, which means 4 series 6-7 games a piece. |
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Post by meangreen on Mar 19, 2023 16:36:41 GMT -5
RR. You just took the title of my next thread: I've some even more bad news for you guys:D For if we have to face Mia, Phi, Mil, we're not winning all of those series. I'm thinking we could beat Mia, & Philly and that's it. This team isn't going to win 4 straight series vs those teams IMHO let alone the finals...
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Post by Roadrunner on Mar 20, 2023 22:06:28 GMT -5
RR. You just took the title of my next thread: I've some even more bad news for you guys:D For if we have to face Mia, Phi, Mil, we're not winning all of those series. I'm thinking we could beat Mia, & Philly and that's it. This team isn't going to win 4 straight series vs those teams IMHO let alone the finals... If, a big IF, BOS has Smart, Brogdon, and Williams available for the playoffs, I think BOS will beat MIA, PHI, and MIL, however the team will be gassed like last year in the Final. Now, if you peruse the West, there are (8), yes 8 teams that could win the West, and there should be no 4-0, 4-1 series. |
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Post by meangreen on Mar 21, 2023 19:21:23 GMT -5
Ehhh, you've more confidence in them even w/Smart, Brogdon, & RWIII than I do RR. I'm by no means rooting for them to fall apart, loose, etc. But this team has done a turnaround in the past say 2 seasons or so. A Cs fan that I work with made a great point to me recently. He said that we used to be the team that would hang around & overcome big leads. Now the tables have turned. We have become the team that is more likely to give up big leads. Even more so w/o a stopper or a guy who can consistently drive a stake through the hearts of opposing team's major comebacks. Jmost has already pointed out a few chinks in the armor of the coach so who knows if his lack of experience will hurt us in the playoffs like it already has in the reg season? I'm not saying its time to panic per se, but there's no doubt the needle is at "reasons to be concerned" & moving closer to panic than the other way...
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Post by Roadrunner on Mar 22, 2023 21:49:45 GMT -5
Ehhh, you've more confidence in them even w/Smart, Brogdon, & RWIII than I do RR. I'm by no means rooting for them to fall apart, loose, etc. But this team has done a turnaround in the past say 2 seasons or so. A Cs fan that I work with made a great point to me recently. He said that we used to be the team that would hang around & overcome big leads. Now the tables have turned. We have become the team that is more likely to give up big leads. Even more so w/o a stopper or a guy who can consistently drive a stake through the hearts of opposing team's major comebacks. Jmost has already pointed out a few chinks in the armor of the coach so who knows if his lack of experience will hurt us in the playoffs like it already has in the reg season? I'm not saying its time to panic per se, but there's no doubt the needle is at "reasons to be concerned" & moving closer to panic than the other way... I think the difference you are referring to is talented versus not talented. Many seasons, Coach Brad would take a not talented team and over achieved. Then, he had the talented team and under achieved. note - Smart didn't look right on defense last night, and that is trending. |
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Post by jmost on Mar 23, 2023 10:43:59 GMT -5
He's admitted being hurt for a while. I noticed Joe went with White down the stretch instead of Smart. Maybe, with a decent lead, it was an opportunity to rest Smart.
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Post by Roadrunner on Mar 23, 2023 21:53:05 GMT -5
He's admitted being hurt for a while. I noticed Joe went with White down the stretch instead of Smart. Maybe, with a decent lead, it was an opportunity to rest Smart. Smart has lost that edge, especially with quick players. |
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