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Post by DERRENMATTS on Jul 26, 2022 16:46:31 GMT -5
Your answer:
And reason:
Ultimately, would you sacrifice Jaylen to ger Durant?
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Post by freshnthehouse on Jul 26, 2022 17:50:12 GMT -5
Only if Brad knows that Jaylen is unlikely to sign. And if that's the case I'd rather make a move for Beal if possible. But if that's not feasible, then I'd make a move for Durant. Our window would only be 2-3 years, but my goodness would that team be something. Just look back at that 2021 bucks-nets series. With no Kyrie and Harden on one leg Durant still almost beat the team that would go on to win it all. Durant is a generational talent.
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Post by DERRENMATTS on Jul 26, 2022 21:21:21 GMT -5
No.
I think Jaylen has another level to reach, as does Tatum -- and if both can reach that level our window is wide open.
Yes.
I am not confident that Jaylen wants to be here long term.
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Post by Roadrunner on Jul 26, 2022 22:33:49 GMT -5
No. I do not think Durant is the player some fans think he is, and at the same time I do not think Brown is the player some fans thinks he is. It is a 1 for 3 trade-off.
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Post by eja117 on Jul 29, 2022 7:46:13 GMT -5
No. Not unless it's clear Brown doesn't want to be here.
I don't want to put two soft guys together. Durant and Tatum are soft.
Having Jaylen, Smart, Rob, and Al with Tatum worked. Take these guys away and add a soft guy like Durant and see what happens.
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Post by jmost on Jul 29, 2022 9:32:57 GMT -5
After reading all the arguments for and against, I'd stay with what we have. While KD is clearly the best player (right now) in any trade with us not involving JT, and the long-accepted rule in NBA trades is that the team who gets the best player almost always wins the trade, I can't see breaking up a team that was so close, and has gotten a lot better over the summer, for what could be a few years at best of peak KD - if he's even still at that level.
Just stay the course. Let our young core continue to improve and see what happens. KD is a risk. Like all older players, the injuries tend to get more frequent, not less. And he has a history of wanting to move on to the next place after a short time.
If it ain't broke, don't fix it.
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Post by DERRENMATTS on Jul 29, 2022 9:38:39 GMT -5
After reading all the arguments for and against, I'd stay with what we have. While KD is clearly the best player (right now) in any trade with us not involving JT, and the long-accepted rule in NBA trades is that the team who gets the best player almost always wins the trade, I can't see breaking up a team that was so close, and has gotten a lot better over the summer, for what could be a few years at best of peak KD - if he's even still at that level. Just stay the course. Let our young core continue to improve and see what happens. KD is a risk. Like all older players, the injuries tend to get more frequent, not less. And he has a history of wanting to move on to the next place after a short time. If it ain't broke, don't fix it. I'm pretty much at the same conclusion. The one thing that holds me back is the track record of championship teams having league MVP players on them.
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Post by freshnthehouse on Jul 29, 2022 16:11:24 GMT -5
Here's a non-Celtics Durant trade hypothetical. If given the option, would you trade KAT and Russell for Durant, Curry, and Harris? It shortens the wolves window, but my god that team would be good. And I can't imagine the Nets will get a better player than KAT offered to them.
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Post by DERRENMATTS on Jul 30, 2022 12:45:00 GMT -5
Here's a non-Celtics Durant trade hypothetical. If given the option, would you trade KAT and Russell for Durant, Curry, and Harris? It shortens the wolves window, but my god that team would be good. And I can't imagine the Nets will get a better player than KAT offered to them. Nah, I don't think I would. Even with Durant and Ant, that duo will not reach the Finals, for lack of surrounding help and depth. Curry and Harris are nice players, though. Maybe if Ant Edwards is a top 7 player and they have a solid supporting cast.
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Post by eja117 on Jul 30, 2022 14:51:43 GMT -5
Here's a non-Celtics Durant trade hypothetical. If given the option, would you trade KAT and Russell for Durant, Curry, and Harris? It shortens the wolves window, but my god that team would be good. And I can't imagine the Nets will get a better player than KAT offered to them. No I would not.
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Post by eja117 on Jul 30, 2022 14:55:53 GMT -5
The problem for the Nets is they have been, and are being, exceptionally foolish. They have 3 problems right now and no way to solve them. Those problems are Kyrie, Durant, and Simmons. They should have taken the Celtics offer and maybe asked for some minor sweeteners. An extra couple picks. Maybe Grant Williams or something cheap that they feel good about like Hauser. Then they should dump Kyrie like a rock if at all possible. Then get Jaylen and Simmons to hang out and develop chemistry in and out of the locker room so Simmons would actually want to play. In 3 years they'd be back. But they're going to destroy the whole thing. Also I'm not convinced Steve Nash is a legit coach at all.
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Post by eja117 on Jul 30, 2022 16:09:43 GMT -5
Ric Bucher just posted maybe Tatum for Durant straight up. That way the Celts don't have to send Jaylen and Smart and picks. I must say I think Ric was never much of anything and the idea is asinine. That said.....it brings me to a post
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Post by DERRENMATTS on Jul 30, 2022 21:32:02 GMT -5
The problem for the Nets is they have been, and are being, exceptionally foolish. They have 3 problems right now and no way to solve them. Those problems are Kyrie, Durant, and Simmons. They should have taken the Celtics offer and maybe asked for some minor sweeteners. An extra couple picks. Maybe Grant Williams or something cheap that they feel good about like Hauser. Then they should dump Kyrie like a rock if at all possible. Then get Jaylen and Simmons to hang out and develop chemistry in and out of the locker room so Simmons would actually want to play. In 3 years they'd be back. But they're going to destroy the whole thing. Also I'm not convinced Steve Nash is a legit coach at all. The Nets had something brewing a few years ago with Kenny Atkins as an up and coming coach, and players like Harris, Lavert, and Brown playing like rising stars. But then the made did the cardinal sin of bringing Kyrie into the fold. I wonder if they'll now consider the JB-White-picks offer?
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Post by DERRENMATTS on Jul 30, 2022 21:33:11 GMT -5
Ric Bucher just posted maybe Tatum for Durant straight up. That way the Celts don't have to send Jaylen and Smart and picks. I must say I think Ric was never much of anything and the idea is asinine. That said.....it brings me to a post That'll be a no from me too. Bucher does occassionally say some informative things, but I think he's off on this one.
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Post by DERRENMATTS on Aug 2, 2022 17:53:28 GMT -5
Let's revisit this question now that we've had a week to think about it.
JB + White + 1 draft pick for KD.
Would you do it?
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