|
Post by DERRENMATTS on Jul 25, 2022 2:06:11 GMT -5
Whoa, Woj just posted this a half hour ago.
I'm sure more than half the teams have inquired about Durant, and it wouldn't surprise anyone if Brad checked in too (as any good GM should). But why single is out specifically, and not mention any other?
|
|
|
Post by DERRENMATTS on Jul 25, 2022 2:25:54 GMT -5
Honestly, how would it even fit? Does Tatum play the 3 and skinny Durant play the 4? Or would JT be the PF?
|
|
|
Post by eja117 on Jul 25, 2022 6:44:54 GMT -5
I don't trust ESPN sources very much
|
|
|
Post by eja117 on Jul 25, 2022 7:22:19 GMT -5
I would think this hinges a lot on whether Jaylen wants to stay here. If Jaylen is mad then I think it may behoove us to do this. We would instantly be a destination again. We would have a very significant 3 to 4 year window (I'm basing that on how Lebron is playing at his age). And Durant is currently definitely a better player than Jaylen. It also takes some blame and undue pressure off Tatum.
Jaylen turns the ball over a lot and I feel a lot better about Durant/Tatum against Giannis again.
I also think it could be raising the price and interfering with other teams. The less time Durant has to bond with a new team the better. The higher the price other teams have to pay the better.
I think you have to do some due diligence here, because what if Brooklyn caves or whatnot? What if Durant really really wants to come here? Maybe we get lucky and the Nets reduce their demand to Smart and White and a ton of picks. I think you just have to make the phone calls.
What makes me nervous is it seems like maybe something changed and we don't know what. Because we were solidly out of this then all of a sudden we're not. So what changed? Either something happened internally or they gave us a call. Or Brad changed his mind.
Here's another thing that i wonder if it changed. What if medical reports came back on Rob Williams and they were pretty bad? Maybe Brad tries to get them interested in Rob.
Just thinking out loud here.
|
|
|
Post by eja117 on Jul 25, 2022 7:26:07 GMT -5
One other possibility.....If the Celtics are offering Brown and Smart......maybe this means they have a lot more confidence in Pritchard, JD Davidson, and Brogdan's health than we thought. Maybe Hauser too. If they know for a fact those guys are ready to explode that makes this trade more doable.
|
|
|
Post by jmost on Jul 25, 2022 7:30:42 GMT -5
Just read that the Celtics offered Jaylen, White and one first round pick, and that was rejected by the Nets. Also that the Nets are saying that any package must include Jaylen, Smart, multiple first round picks (3) and two pick swaps, as well as possibly another rotation player.
Who knows if any of that is true though.
I'll say this, unless Jaylen has specifically told Brad that he's unlikely to stay with us beyond this contract, I'd reject the second Net proposal out of hand. That's way too much for a 34 year old.
If we could get the next four years of Durant for Jaylen, White and one pick I'd think hard about it.
(Wrote this before seeing eja's posts above)
|
|
|
Post by DERRENMATTS on Jul 25, 2022 8:42:17 GMT -5
It could be that Brad thinks Tatum can benefit from Durant's tutelage.
Maybe the owners want the very best chance to win a title this year.
Maybe the Nets are seeing that Jaylen is the best offer they're likely to get.
|
|
|
Post by DERRENMATTS on Jul 25, 2022 8:47:50 GMT -5
Brad's gotta do some serious damage control. This could predetermine Jaylen's future with the team (he hits free agency in 2 years).
|
|
|
Post by DERRENMATTS on Jul 25, 2022 9:55:03 GMT -5
If the Nets ask Jaylen, Marcus, and picks, would you do it?
|
|
|
Post by jmost on Jul 25, 2022 11:27:47 GMT -5
First off, I'm seeing now that even though it's just being reported today, the Celtics trade offer is probably weeks old.
Regarding your question, I think I'd be hesitant to pull the trigger on that. We're already considered the favorite, with a team that - other than Al - has a long window to win. If we traded Brown, Smart and picks for KD it's basically a trade to be better for a short time by sacrificing the longer term prospects.
On the other hand, I can't say I'd totally hate it if the deal were made.
|
|
|
Post by DERRENMATTS on Jul 25, 2022 12:12:51 GMT -5
First off, I'm seeing now that even though it's just being reported today, the Celtics trade offer is probably weeks old. Regarding your question, I think I'd be hesitant to pull the trigger on that. We're already considered the favorite, with a team that - other than Al - has a long window to win. If we traded Brown, Smart and picks for KD it's basically a trade to be better for a short time by sacrificing the longer term prospects. On the other hand, I can't say I'd totally hate it if the deal were made. If we can give up as least as possible (meaning Jaylen and little else), our championship odds will be much greater than it is now. I think that's maybe what's driving this potential trade. The window to win is open now, but we don't know how much longer Horford will be effective, how much longer before Rob's injuries makes him unreliable, how much longer before Smart's body wears down, etc.
|
|
|
Post by jmost on Jul 25, 2022 14:58:56 GMT -5
Glad to see someone mention Smart in this context. The way he plays could well take years off his career, much like it did to Bird.
|
|
|
Post by eja117 on Jul 25, 2022 17:13:22 GMT -5
I wouldn't agree to that huge offer even if I thought Jaylen didn't really want to be here. I think I could do way better than that. I'd rather have a younger guy like Donovan Mitchell. And I don't think you'd have to throw in Smart for a Jaylen - Donovan trade.
|
|
|
Post by DERRENMATTS on Jul 25, 2022 19:34:26 GMT -5
According to Shams:
We're offering Jaylen, Derrick, and a first round pick.
They're asking for Jaylen, Marcus, another rotational player, and multiple first round picks.
Brad doesn't have to budge at all. We're a very good team even without KD. And what Brad offered will be hard to beat. It's up to BRK if they will settle for our offer, or keep KD and see what happens throughout the season.
It's actually in BRK's best interest to rebuild. They can get a darn good 25 year old Jaylen Brown to start their rebuild.
|
|
|
Post by eja117 on Jul 25, 2022 21:14:36 GMT -5
According to Shams: We're offering Jaylen, Derrick, and a first round pick. They're asking for Jaylen, Marcus, another rotational player, and multiple first round picks. Brad doesn't have to budge at all. We're a very good team even without KD. And what Brad offered will be hard to beat. It's up to BRK if they will settle for our offer, or keep KD and see what happens throughout the season. It's actually in BRK's best interest to rebuild. They can get a darn good 25 year old Jaylen Brown to start their rebuild. Totally agree. Brad has them. We don't need Durant to win a ring
|
|